On 10/25/2011 02:16 PM, Kim Leyendecker wrote:
Am 25.10.2011 19:50, schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
On Tuesday 25 October 2011 21:16:22 Kim Leyendecker wrote:
IMHO KDE3 should not be part of the main release, for reasons I mentioned earlier in this thread, but should be promoted in the release notes in a "Community" section thereof.
community section sound good to me. Jos, others, any objections? Tell me if I am wrong, but all of openSUSE is community project, that's why I see no reason to separate KDE3 community project from the rest of openSUSE community project.
If you place it into "community" section in the release notes, this would look like the rest of the distro is not by community, which is wrong.
Well, openSUSE´s still mainly driven by SUSE, right?
NO !!!!
It´s more about that *you* support KDE3 in your spare time, you´re don´t getting money for it (or do you?). It´s a hobby for you. Whereas the KDE4 guys get support right from SUSE (Will is working for SUSE, other team members also)
That doesn't count. Will and others ate SUSE are members of the community just like everyone else. However, what does matter is that the current technology is KDE4 and there is no upstream community that supports KDE3 in the way the Ilya maintains the KDE3 project.
Of course, openSUSE is a community project but until there isn´t a foundation, it´s still a part of SUSE (which is wrong again, It will stay a part with the foundation also because SUSE will stay pay there "project workers".)
OK, after a number of years where we have worked really hard to hand control of the project to the community and have opened a lot of tools and processes to the community you still are harping on the "SUSE controls openSUSE" crap. This ticks me off big time. If SUSE would control openSUSE then openSUSE might not have KDE as the default desktop as this is certainly not in the best interest for SLE, which uses GNOME as the default desktop. Having KDE as a default desktop was a community decision, no control by SUSE was asserted. Yes, a number of SUSE employees get paid to work on openSUSE as their full time job. However, there are many more SUSE employees that do not get paid to work on openSUSE full time. We do this because we like the project and the community and work on openSUSE mostly in our spare time. If you do not like that SUSE employees participate then why are you here? Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org