On Sat August 30 2008 11:24:41 pm Druid wrote:
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Fred A. Miller <fmiller@lightlink.com> wrote silly stuff: <bla bla bla deleted>
It is not on topic, so you should care about it and not pollute the list with silliness. Take it to opensuse-whining@opensuse.org
This thread was started by a member of a representative of Novell and included input from Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier openSUSE Community Manager soliciting input and opinion relative to the subject. It is relative to the subject if by the openSuSE-Factory minions perpetuating a mistake that erstwhile loyal openSuSE Linux users and fans are alienated to the point of seeking other distributions and actively removing openSuSE from their and their clients systems. That is what is happening because a few vociferous enthusiastic proponents of what potentially will become a future standard are trying to ram it down the throat of everyone. I hasten to point out that one of the goals of openSuSE Linux is to promote Linux and attract NEW users, users that are by definition unfamiliar with Linux, SuSE in general and most certainly with anything remotely approaching a CLI because most of the world still uses Windoze in some form or another and that means most NEW users of openSuSE are not Linux literate. For the developers of KDE and those that are familiar with testing and debugging, the current state of KDE 4.x is absolute paridise, for anyone trying to do real work, trying to convert their mentality from Windoze to Linux and just expect/hope that 'it just works' because if it doesn't, they have no clue, then KDE 4.1 is an unmitigated disaster and is NOT the cutting edge of technology, it is a dull saw blade that still needs a lot of work to be called a cutting device of any type. The opensuse-factory list is where the developers and managers and decision makers 'live' and pertainent opinions and feedback relavent to a question THEY posed is most definitely ON TOPIC because if it isn't, then the question is off topic in the first place, and the whole mailing list borders on totally worthless, as openSuSE will be if mistakes like 4.1 are allowed to continue without checks and balance. I totally condone continued support and development of KDE 4.x, I totally abhor ramming it down our throats and removing features and software that is useful and relatively complete and stable in the misguided name of 'progress'. Richard Creighton CSC, Inc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org