* Ken Schneider - Factory <suse-list3@bout-tyme.net> [07-13-15 16:01]:
On 07/13/2015 12:29 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-07-13 17:01, Ken Schneider - Factory wrote:
On 07/13/2015 10:03 AM, Werner Flamme wrote:
Carlos E. R. [13.07.2015 12:22]:
Well, Factory, now Tumbleweed, is the other scenario in which you should use "zypper dup" for regular updates, not "zypper up".
Hm, in the good old times[tm], this was written down on <https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed>. But now, this hint has disappeared.
On <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Tumbleweed_installation>, you find "zypper dup" only for the upgrade to TW. There is no recommendation whether to run "zypper dup" or "zypper up" now.
AND each release of TumbleWeed is a distribution upgrade, that is why each release of TW should use 'zypper dup'. That is the part people don't seem to comprehend. It is NOT an update but an upgrade!
Some even refute it.
It has to be clearly written, and not by a mere mortal. ;-)
It has been stated that each release is it's own distribution, I'm sure I read it on these lists somewhere at some time. Damn failing memory.
And the world turns. An up{date,grade} just issued moments ago and zypper is perfectly happy to install the same files.... <quote> 17:20 Crash: ~ # zypper -v dup -d Verbosity: 1 Warning: You are about to do a distribution upgrade with all enabled repositories. Make sure these repositories are compatible before yo u continue. See 'man zypper' for more information about this command. Initializing Target Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... Force resolution: No Computing upgrade... The following 10 packages are going to be upgraded: feh 2.12.1-1.2 -> 2.13.1-1.1 flash-player 11.2.202.468-1.1 -> 11.2.202.481-1.1 flash-player-kde4 11.2.202.468-1.1 -> 11.2.202.481-1.1 libopenssl-devel 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 libopenssl1_0_0 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 libopenssl1_0_0-32bit 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 nano 2.4.1-1.2 -> 2.4.2-1.1 openSUSE-release 20150708-1.2 -> 20150712-1.1 openSUSE-release-ftp 20150708-1.2 -> 20150712-1.1 openssl 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 openssl 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20150708-0 -> 20150712-0 10 packages to upgrade. Overall download size: 11.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B Download only. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): n 17:20 Crash: ~ # zypper -v up -d Verbosity: 1 Initializing Target Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No The following 15 package updates will NOT be installed: javahelp2 2.0.05-28.13 javapackages-tools 4.4.0-42.1 libblas3 3.5.0-71.3 libcaca0 0.99.16-5.14 libenca0 1.15-37.9 libfftw3-3 3.3.4-5.13 libfftw3_threads3 3.3.4-5.13 libhdf5-9 1.8.14-65.3 libhdf5_hl9 1.8.14-65.3 liblapack3 3.5.0-71.3 libwebp5 0.4.3-4.1.TM libwebpmux1 0.4.3-4.1.TM live-fat-stick 0.3.1-8.1 live-usb-gui 0.3.1-8.1 python-javapackages 4.4.0-42.1 The following 10 packages are going to be upgraded: feh 2.12.1-1.2 -> 2.13.1-1.1 flash-player 11.2.202.468-1.1 -> 11.2.202.481-1.1 flash-player-kde4 11.2.202.468-1.1 -> 11.2.202.481-1.1 libopenssl-devel 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 libopenssl1_0_0 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 libopenssl1_0_0-32bit 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 nano 2.4.1-1.2 -> 2.4.2-1.1 openSUSE-release 20150708-1.2 -> 20150712-1.1 openSUSE-release-ftp 20150708-1.2 -> 20150712-1.1 openssl 1.0.2a-1.3 -> 1.0.2d-1.1 The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20150708-0 -> 20150712-0 10 packages to upgrade. Overall download size: 11.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B Download only. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20150708-0 -> 20150712-0 10 packages to upgrade. Overall download size: 11.2 MiB. Already cached: 0 B Download only. Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): </quote> Perhaps the "requirement" for "dup" for Tw can be dismissed and the actual functionality of zypper ulized in it's place. Zypper is a tool. A hammer may be used for other than driving nails. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org