All meeting minutes can be found here: https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-meeting The meeting is hosted here https://meet.opensuse.org/ReleaseEngineeringMeeting ## Attendees DimStar, lkocman, DocB, RBrown, maxlin, Marcus, Dirk, adrians ## Leap Leap 15.5 RC build should be ready by next Thursday I did ask to prioritize the rpmlint update which blocks kinfocenter 5.27 update Ongoing cleanup of https://code.opensuse.org/leap/features/issues Leap Micro 5.4 RC this week. (SLE Micro 5.4 GM happened) https://news.opensuse.org/2023/03/28/leapmicro-54-beta-hands-on/ There I think my marketing capacity is a driver. We will have an issue with IPRQ for the GA itself (eta two weeks from RC). 15.4 image respin based on QU2 - TBD Leap 16.0 followup discussion in thread started by Richard https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/G... related: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12qxn7d/alp_current_status_a_star... Continuation of oSCS2023 "Leap 16.0 planning" and related Grassy Knoll Trouble with publish_distro https://github.com/openSUSE/openSUSE-release-tools/issues/2954 https://gitlab.infra.opensuse.org/lkocman/pontifex-mirror/-/blob/main/bin/pu... (putting --force for applainces being considered as a workaround) **weblate-admin situation** There is currently no-one to setup Leap 15.5 in weblate. I'm trying my luck with Sascha W. team who helped up with the initial setup, as they did set up the SLES 15 SP5 (Big thanks to Padraig for pointers). ## openSUSE Tumbleweed openSUSE:Factory build fail stats: 73 failed 3 unresolvable (one week ago: 111 / 15) https://tinyurl.com/ysy4nnnz * Ruby 3.1 removal is planned and simulated. Progress looks good, nothing really seems to rely on this (except all the rubygem packages) * Staging:C: openssl 3.1 incoming; a few packages failing to build lkocman will change the ruby3.1 JIRA feature request in SLES 15 SPX to 3.2 ## Richard (MicroOS) No new news, but the MicroOS Desktop Plasma/KDE is stil in desperate need of help else could be at risk of being dropped (again) https://microos.opensuse.org/blog/2023-04-02-state-of-microOS-Desktop-Plasma... ## Richard (ALP Architecture) Opened discussions with the openSUSE community about building 'whatever replaces Leap' in a way that is aligned with SUSE's new ALP Products https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/factory@lists.opensuse.org/thread/G... Feedback so far has been mostly on reddit Questions about how this impacts Tumbleweed - TL;DR it doesn't effect TW right now, but TW might be transformed to also be built in "the ALP way" longer answer: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12qxn7d/comment/jgupye4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Questions also about the desktop and fears that ALP means SUSE is 'abandoning' it - TL;DR the reality with openSUSE-based-ALP is not really any different than the last 10 years - the community will have to do the heavy lifting like they've always done, as SUSE's commercial Desktop products really don't overlap in scope with openSUSE's Desktop interests much at all. longer answer: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12qxn7d/comment/jgugrbt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Fred has also shared some insights into SUSE's investigations of building flatpaks for a future ALP Desktop: https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12qxn7d/comment/jguuo66/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 ## Max Leap 15.5(build stats in Backports: 2 unresolvables, 15 fails; build stats in Leap: 1 fail) * Build 464.1 is the latest published snapshot * Finished the package whitelisting in rpmlint-backports * /usr/bin/python script interpreter cleanup * Waiting for doc team to upload a 15.5 release-notes rpm to doc.o.o Frank S. received heroes vpn access only recently (required for publishing of RN) * The newest snapshot(not published) hit a grub problem on power and s390x, it was a ship-stopper for SLE15-SP5, the fix has merged to SLE15-SP5 yesterday, it will be fixed in the next Leap snapshot, https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1210489 ## Guillaume - Arm Not available openQA: * openqa-aarch64 worker is very slow. Likely related to btrfs issues, investigating. Tumbleweed: * 20230330 was the 1st released snapshot which was rebuilt with gcc13. * GCC13 adds support for AArch64 LSE and LSE2 to libatomic. Disable outline atomics, and use LSE ifuncs for 1-8 byte atomics and LSE2 ifuncs for 16-byte atomics. (On Neoverse V1, 16-byte atomics are ~4x faster due to avoiding locks) * NVIDIA: tester with aarch64 server and NVIDIA card wanted - Proprietary drivers are now available for aarch64 (only G06): https://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/tumbleweed/ - New opengpu driver also available in OBS: https://build.opensuse.org/project/monitor/X11:Drivers:Video lkocman to check on who is the aarch64 + nvidia effort blocked on. I recall that there was a chosen point of contact. No update sorry. Leap: * 15.5 aarch64: No aarch64 specific issues * 15.5 armv7: no blocker ALP: * No aarch64 specific issues WSL: * Works with x86 emulator since appx installer is x86-64, but this is not really an issue since arm64 Win11 includes x86 emulator by default. => Could we publish it on Microsoft store anyway? lkocman: Team is okay, but we need to make sure that such case is covered in openQA https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/126083. Steps documented on the wiki to install the appx from download.o.o: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:WSL#With_Appx_from_openSUSE_download_server ## Sarah - s390x Not available Tumbleweed * release is rolling Leap: * working * new (waiting) Submissisions with fixes for gtkd and gnu-cobol * New topic HPC packages (enablement) at the Linux Distributions Working Group @ Open Mainframe Project * The Open Source CTO at IBM is looking for mainframe users, who want to use MPI and OpenMP for parallelism and optimizing builds/runs of open source software (example Kafka in the case of an Open Source Contributor in our Working Group) * 2 accepted presentations at the oSC lkocman: to reach out to Software AG regarding their s390x / openSUSE usecase Sarah will reach out to Mike Friesenegger ## Doug * Google Summer of Code * Processing for rankings * Ranking session planned for April 25 (deadline April 27) * oSC23 * 125 registered * Talks scheduled * Adjusting some talks times for better alignment * Ordered conference t-shirt * openSUSE.Asia Summit * call for hosts https://news.opensuse.org/2023/04/13/opensuse-asia-summit-2023-call-for-host... * Continuing Leap 15.5 release annoucement * Had AI discussions during community meeting * Reached/connected relevant people * Informed about geeko.port0.org Dirk: concern about copyright in case that documentation (not translation) would be in scope. lkocman: huge success story with Hogwards Legacy in CZ (one-two week to get usable initial translation of whole game done) * Doing some TSP request inputs * Reviewing expenditures * Started dialog with possible next oSC keynote (blockless) https://github.com/blocklessnetwork lkocman: could was also try DP (new CEO)? ## Dirk No update Improved the CDN setup a bit further (https working now, caching issues fixed) and in progress of collecting in put from early testers. It looks like we have more issues to resolve. Did a strategic benchmarking exercise with various zypper options and a huge part of the slowness appears to be related to the choices of zypper options. In evaluation with zypper folks. A > factor 5 improvement even for european is possible over current setup. Other locations could be better. Sarah can provide mainframe acess - he has received VM from Sarah * also todo announce tumbleweed maintainer policy draft currently working on testing those in a private staging test project * Started ALP:RISCV:* builds in the new build setup Biggest speedup can be observed by switching zlib to zlib-ng, so looked into fixing the build failures caused by switching to zlibo-ng- compat ## Wolfgang (Package Hub), Scott Bahling Not available * Moved duplicated packages to subpackages for SLE-15-SP5 (thanks to Max for the list of packages) * Packages in subpackages for SP5 is up to the level of SP4 (still considering putting more packages there because of migration from Leap to SLE) * patterns-mate added to openSUSE:Backports:SLE-15-SP5 (thanks Max) ## Maintenance team (Marcus or Maurizio (m4u)) Leap Micro 5.4 maint-setup is ready sicnce the last week. lkocman: we need to syncup on Leap Micro 5.4 GA. I believe SLE Micro is only blocked on IPRQ and then they can go live. Our update channel should receive all SLEM 5.4 updates from that point in time. 15.5 setup is done lkocman: We're still not in RC phase, so better now than later. Key rotation: openSUSE:Leap:15.5 is done, Backports are bit more challenging because of SLES. Wolfgang: we're injecting the key. Marcus we probably want to do only Backports 15 SP5 for now. Marcus is working also on the SLES side, the update of package with the new key was released last week, it's just not activated yet, but it will be already trusted by Leap 15.5 systems. Leap 15.4 is working Leap Micro 5.3 is working Leap Micro 5.4 testing is now passing as well Leap 16.0 - we should revisit the update/sle repo as the current setup not exactly mirror friendly. Solutions could be dropping not so popular architectures or split repositories per architecture. securebootkey for SLES was rotated, it should be autotrusted and not noticeable. This will be in QU3, QU2 is already done. lkocman: 15.3 EOL could lead to stopping our physical Source DVD effort, as it seems we will not produce. As this was the last release which you could still get on a physical media. Lkocman: anything against decomissioning it? Not a single valid request since I've joined SUSE. We did receive only requests for binary install media which are not subject to ^. We do not plan to offer this for any new releases. ## Adrian - OBS No news DimStar pointed Adrian to issue handled by Marco - unresolvables due to python3.8 drop. So far it seems like a scheduler issue. Just wait for fix, local builds are not affected. ## Open Floor