Am 16. Januar 2024 04:26:36 MEZ schrieb Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de>:
Hi All,
To Help make it clear to everyone i'm quoting two replies from two different people.
On 1/16/24 04:46, Eric Schirra wrote:
hello Fritz
Well. The whole thing is window dressing. For whatever reason. If I've understood correctly, Leap 16 is based on ALP. So it has nothing to do with the current Leap.
On 1/16/24 13:28, Lew Wolfgang wrote:
On 1/15/24 18:02, Charlie Chan via openSUSE Factory wrote:
From the announcement, in case I misread it Leap 16 will be ALP based, so yes, Leap 16 is just Leap in name only but technically it will be apart from its predecessor
But that begs the question, what will 16 be like for admins and users?
I've been administering SuSE releases, and now openSUSE, for a couple dozen scientists and engineers since 1998. Uses include servers for Subversion, GitLab, xTuple, OpenProject and Samba. Locally developed code for signal processing is written in C and Python. Code for embedded systems is also cross-compiled. Aggregate disk space exceeds one Petabyte, and connections to remote "clouds" are disallowed by policy.
Will the anticipated upgrade from 15 to 16 support these use cases? Or, should we start looking for alternatives now? I really want to stay with openSUSE if at all possible, but I have a responsibility to my users to maintain continuity of operations going forward. Is it time for (shudder) RHEL or a BSD? BTW, before 1998 we used Sun Solaris and SunOS starting in 1986.
ALP as it sits now is very different to ALP as it was first announced, alongside the read only transactional MicroOS style distro's that will be built from ALP, the successor to SLES 15 will also be built from ALP which is what Leap 16 will be built from.
So containers won't be necessary, in many cases Upgrades from Leap 15 will be supported and you should expect an experience that's much closer to Leap 15 then that of MicroOS, although it won't be completely the same
Sorry, that's a total mess. ALP. But it's not. Or not completely. Only partly. No containers like Alp. But flatpack? Or not that either? Who can still see through that? Who can plan reliably and seriously? Regards Eric