On 3/31/22 11:09, Emily Gonyer wrote:
I would definitely be interested in working on such a proposal, and am sure some other folks would be as well. I know that I am a relative newcomer to openSUSE, but I believe that forming a foundation for openSUSE, so that it can act on its own behalf is certainly a worthwhile goal.
This proposal from 2019 [1] is probably the best reading for getting started, at the time we as the openSUSE board discussed this with the management at SUSE and had a positive response, unfortunately soon after that there were a significant number of changes in SUSE's management and we decided it would be best for that to settle before moving any further forward with it. Now its once again waiting for people to have time to start driving the discussion again.
In terms of changes one thing we could consider is there is a similar not for profit structure in the US that maybe better or worse so could be worth looking at especially if anyone has had some involvement with them.
We also need to spend some time developing a better business case, with the previous management this was less of an issue. But there are a number of ways that openSUSE having a foundation could save SUSE money such as being able to get more and better conference sponsorship and so putting together a business case would be useful.
Anyway if your interested it might be worth starting another discussion on the project list to see if we can find some more people.
Cheers
Simon
1. https://lists.opensuse.org/archives/list/project@lists.opensuse.org/message/...
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 8:17 PM Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de mailto:sflees@suse.de> wrote:
Hi On 3/31/22 09:21, Emily Gonyer wrote: > It seems like this is an ongoing issue, whereby openSUSE is limited by > it's own guidelines and bylaws. This seems like a fixable issue, and one > which can be and should be worth working on in the future. Perhaps a > workshop at the upcoming openSUSE conference is in order to discuss and > hopefully implement a new set of guidelines and bylaws which can allow > openSUSE to expand beyond SUSE. Unfortunately its a fair bit more complex then that, currently openSUSE doesn't have any form of legal entity currently everything is handled by and through SUSE. Setting one up that meets all the various legal regulations and is sustainable also isn't as simple as it seems at face value. But if other people would like to help working on a proposal to put to SUSE i'd be happy to help, currently with the amount of spare time I have I can't drive this on my own. > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022, 7:23 AM Simon Lees <sflees@suse.de <mailto:sflees@suse.de> > <mailto:sflees@suse.de <mailto:sflees@suse.de>>> wrote: > > > > On 3/30/22 20:59, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > Hey, > > > > On 30.03.22 10:24, Simon Lees wrote: > > > >> which is why I spent alot of time looking at foundation related > topics. > > > > And that is nice and all. But *additionally* to doing the grunt > work of > > attracting contributors, not *instead* of it. > > Sure, do you have a magical time tree for me? I have a young family and > most of my board work was done around that my day job and the various > other open source projects I contribute to. > > If I could think of simple easy things to attract new contributors I > would absolutely have been doing them as well, but its hard and I don't > have many ideas, do you? One thing I do know is how to package so if > anyone wants to learn packaging or needs help with it I have and always > will go out of my way to help them. > > But if you can think of a bunch of "grunt" work that can be done to > attract new contributors and you don't have time to do it yourself why > don't you share your ideas because maybe someone else does have time to. > > -- > Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net <http://simotek.net> > <http://simotek.net <http://simotek.net>> > > Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek <http://keybase.io/simotek> > <http://keybase.io/simotek <http://keybase.io/simotek>> > SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net <http://simotek.net> Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek <http://keybase.io/simotek> SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B-- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. - Goethe