Le 11/04/2011 08:59, Thomas Taylor a écrit : please, be kind to read my mail before answering, ask for details if necessary. I used only *official demo dvd* pressed and got from openSUSE, not downloaded, and I used several ones. of course, a bad dvd can happen... but here I tested several with the same result. When I can follow the bug, I make a bugzilla entry. I *never* use factory before RC and so can't report before. Of course I never make demos with factory. and for the multimedia/packman problem, read the multimedia list if you are interested, all is reported there (*and* in bugzilla), but most of the time nobody knows if the bug is from upstream or packman. The fact that some applications *don't load at all* mean they where not at all tested. I beg that if I can find several, there must be more. It's not a rant. *we* have to find together a best workflow. some reports of what I do: http://dodin.org/wiki/index.php?n=Doc.DVDAuthoringWithOpenSUSELinux when I can, I work also upstream, but my free time is limited :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgxog7_clip-l-ombre-et-la-lumiere-3-bad-pig... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGgv_ZFtV14 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org