On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Randall R Schulz wrote:
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 19:15, Kevin Dupuy wrote:
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 20:41 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
My email is maintained in *one* location, filters and all, my home computer which is accessable from anywhere via ssh. You are making it hard for no reason.
OK, I have 2 questions:
1) Why is this being discussed on the Factory mailinglist? Isn't this something for opensuse-project?
It cuts across all mailing lists (SuSE and beyond).
I am on over 150 email lists and only two have the broken method you want. I really want it to stay the way it is. I use ssh and flash drives for accessing from other computers. I do not want to install anything on other computers. Also, I do not trust them. I want everything encrypted and trusted. This open web is easy access you your systems.
2) Do you seriously think most users, even those subscribing to a mailinglist, would seriously set up ssh to access their email, when free webmail is so much easier?
Easier? not really, I have to use insecure web program that maybe infected, Not as easy as having a flash driver with everything needed configures, secured and using the same program every where. I can also send a private email when necessary. A lot better thought-out and useful method.
Easy is often wrong. In this case, it most certainly is. If central authorities (such as those that manage this list) continue to give in to this sort of degradation of practice, we'll end up with mush. I applaud Henne V. who refuses to succumb to these slothful user requests.
Most lists capitulate to this crap, and they're predictably crappy. Worse than the Reply-To crap is the thread hijacking crap. Those whose mailers implement the pertinent standards relating to threading get mailboxes full of this crap while users of GMail and Outlook / Outlook Express are ignorant of the chaos they perpetrate. I have to deal with people who say "Start a new thread: All you have to do is use 'Reply' and then change the Subject." !! Gag me!
+2 I agrees totally.
The SuSE lists used to demand a higher standard, but in the past few years that has changed. People like me and Patrick S. who wish to maintain standards, both civil and technological, are losing the battle.
Sad, but true.
+1 You not the only one's. We really need to maintain the standards if we are going to get email fixed. Until it is fixed it will be bug/spam ridden.
This crap is why I now advocate the use of bulletin-board-style forums instead of mailing lists.
I understand that, I prefer gated forums, so those of us that do not want to be on the forum with a browser do not have to be, I have everything filtered into the folders I want. I do not really want to go to a method that has so many problems and breaks standards. So I am very against any change to the current behavior. -- Boyd Gerber <gerberb@zenez.com> ZENEZ 1042 East Fort Union #135, Midvale Utah 84047 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org