I found a Ruby pattern as well (see below) - and all the packages in the Ruby ones are in Rails as well. Could one of the Ruby on Rails experts create one or two patterns out of these? We can have the Rails pattern require the Ruby one if desired... Cheers, Andreas Must have (if pattern is selected this is mandatory): ruby Optional (if pattern is selected this gets installed but can be removed by the user): NONE Optional (if pattern is selected this does not get installed but can be done by the user): rubygems ruby-devel ruby-test-suite ruby-tk ruby-FlexMock ruby-gdchart ruby-gettext ruby-mysql ruby-examples ruby-doc-html ruby-fcgi ruby-ldap ruby-racc ruby-doc-ri Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126