On 15 February 2018 at 18:05, Stefan Seyfried <stefan.seyfried@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 15.02.2018 um 11:24 schrieb Richard Brown:
The _only_ negative feedback I got complaining about the changes or checks at all, were from people with @suse.* addresses, who are meant to be doing package maintainer as their everyday job.
I do of course not know who complained, but I just wanted to remind that there are people with @suse.* addresses whose everyday job is not package maintainance, but they just do it in their spare time. Their every day job might as well be fixing problems for paying customers. I know because I work with some of them every day (as a customer ;-)
Absolutely - I chose my words carefully to try and imply this but to be abundantly clear, among those dozens of volunteers who made the transition easy was dozens of SUSE colleagues acting in either professional, or voluntary capacities. It generally was a very pleasing experience. But, my point there remains, the negative exceptions had the previously stated attributes in common. It's important we reflect on that and consider it when discussing these things.
Now if we want to discuss overly strict rpmlint checks and the stupid habit of forcing format_spec_file on people via project config, so that I always need to use "osc {build,commit} --noservice", I'm all open for a long weekend of flamewars^Whealthy discussions :-)
If only life was so simple. Right now I am having to do significant amounts of extra work precisely because I accept there are people like you doing "osc {foo} --noservice". This won't save you in the long run either, as you can soon example needing to deal a barrage of important SR's with another bulk change in Factory from me. And this bulk change will almost certainly come with additional rpmlint checks also. Given the topic I'm currently investigating is one with legal implications, I imagine we'll have to lean on the very strict side of things there also. All of this would be avoided if everyone was just using spec_cleaner automatically, as that is already able of taking care of the problem I'm addressing. So, ironically we're currently living a situation where your avoidance of spec_cleaner has created both more work for all of us, and more checks for all of us.. I like my job, so I don't think it's worthy of long flamewars^Whealthy discussions, but maybe it's worth thinking over whether your behaviour actually helps with what you're aiming for? - R -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org