[opensuse-factory-mozilla] Re: [opensuse-factory] xulrunner/firefox split revisited
Hi, [cross-posting not needed I think] Am 29.09.2010 14:14, schrieb Frederic Crozat:
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 14:02 +0200, Wolfgang Rosenauer a écrit : Probably a stupid question, but have you discussed with other distribution maintainers to see how they are handling the move ?
Not stupid at all. And yes, I have talked to Ubuntu and Debian already. Fedora to go actually. Status: Ubuntu already started to do exactly what I want to do. Even more (as I've been told) they are not inheriting any more system libraries as upstream does. NSPR, NSS, JPG whatever is apparently statically built into their Firefox. The reasons were ongoing issues with upstream about using too old or broken system libraries and (startup) performance. Debian and Ubuntu never had the split running as smoothly as we did. My localization packaging and split between xulrunner/firefox was almost perfect. Debian hasn't had localized xulrunner but only Firefox. We had both without overlapping packaging. Last I heard was that Debian wants to keep the split but hasn't yet really looked into the issues I'm facing already. AFAIK Fedora also has a different localization packaging using ready made XPIs from upstream for the locales. Otherwise I'm failing to find their current package for FF4 (if they have it). But thanks for the reminder. I guess I'll just contact them all again.
It might useful to have a "common" way of packaging xulrunner / firefox across distributions, which "could" help influence Mozilla in the future.
The only reason why Firefox-on-top-of-xulrunner still works somehow is the work of the distributions. Mozilla doesn't really care and breaks it very often (not really intentionally but they do not test this setup and they ignore it for their design plans). I'm really starting to wonder if it's worth the effort. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 29.09.2010 14:46, schrieb Wolfgang Rosenauer:
It might useful to have a "common" way of packaging xulrunner / firefox across distributions, which "could" help influence Mozilla in the future.
The only reason why Firefox-on-top-of-xulrunner still works somehow is the work of the distributions. Mozilla doesn't really care and breaks it very often (not really intentionally but they do not test this setup and they ignore it for their design plans). I'm really starting to wonder if it's worth the effort.
I'm probably talking to myself on that list but anyway there is an archive at least :-( Discussed that again with other distributions and Fedora and Debian are still planning to keep the split. So as I'm not alone with my efforts I decided to stay there as well for the time being. I've fixed the localization packaging now but it still has minor issues which I try to sort out along the way. The "omnijar" issue I probably mentionend is being worked on and therefore there isn't much disadvantage left to justify a change at the moment. Next Firefox 4 beta (b7) is meant to arrive soon and I'll sync out my work into mozilla:beta at that point. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory-mozilla+help@opensuse.org
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