Been looking at the solutions provided and have not really been impressed. Kde kiosk does look good but needs a reliable way of being propergated across the pcs. Nfs does have its limitations in that when the network is down all we can do is sit on our hands. With things like karushi and openschoolserver they look nice but are massive over kill. We already have a very expencive infastructure which makes 98% of it redundent. All we need is something to manage the suse desktops. So it looks like I going to have to be a programmer - joy - can really see why Linux is doing so well in the uk edu. I can't see our position being much different from most uk schools/FE as we got reasable kit from gov money. We looking to try and pump prime FOSS in the north east (well our little bit) in our computing course. Also think small, this is a dept trying this out. We currently out on our own as IT support will not touch it. From the look of it suse edu looks good as a demo but get above ten installs it starts turning into a pig. Also looked at ltsp and it is really not what we want, as far as I can tell, as our environent is not thin. Also after trawling through pages on how to get local apps I gave up, hopefully that will improve over time. The big worry with ltsp is reliability, I have seen mentioned about multipuly lts but no howtos on it Sent from my iPod -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-edu+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-edu+help@opensuse.org