I use Karoshi (www.karoshi.org.uk), So I would only have to install basic Mandrake and then Karoshi on top. My record is 25 minutes. So thats 25*6 = 150minutes. Then I can either bring back all the users from backup....or worse case I would have to bulk user create. As this is from a Comma Seperated File, I would load it up in our bulk user creator and it would take about 5 minutes (guessimate) per year. All the permissions, groups etc etc are already setup by Karoshi so no worries there. Print quenes come back from backup, unless backup is gone, and then obviously this would have to be done by hand so will take longer. Work comes back from backup, but not sure of the timing of this. So basically the servers/users/system will be there in a day but work not (as I am not sure on the timing of this- a couple of day maybe?!) We have about 1000-1200 users on the network this is staff and students. Basically Karoshi sets up the whole system with everything in place, all I have to do is bring back the users and thier work :) Our print server went down the other day, it took me 30 minutes to get it up running and working again, including bringing back all print quenes etc. and it first print out. Jo -- Spread FireFox: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/register&r=32751 Get FireFox: http://www.getfirefox.com OpenOffice: http://www.openoffice.org Mandrake: http://www.mandrakelinux.com Karoshi: http://www.karoshi.org.uk