Name: blackbox Summary: A Window Manager with the X Window System as the Only Dependency URL: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ Version: 0.70.1 License: GPL Devproject: X11:Windowmanagers
Description:: Blackbox is a small, fast, and stable window manager.
Authors: The blackbox project
Applied Patches: blackbox-lib64.patch - fix some hardcoded /lib's in configure
blackbox-0.70.1-includes.patch blackbox-0.70.1-gcc43.patch - include some missing headers for gcc43
OpenSUSE Integration (init.d, SUSEconfig, permissions.d, etc): suse-blackboxmenu that uses the XDG menu
Testing Status: Tested on i586 and x86_64
Hi !
I have a question - is the project name Blackbox or Openbox ? Blackbox is part of factory.
I see it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/i586/black-...
Is it different ?
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
I have a question - is the project name Blackbox or Openbox ?
blackbox of course. openbox is comming later.
Blackbox is part of factory.
It is not. Please look at the actual package.
Henne
* Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-08 21:25]:
Blackbox is part of factory.
I see it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/i586/black-...
"blackbox" != "black-box".
Bernhard
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Bernhard Walle bwalle@suse.de wrote:
- Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-08 21:25]:
Blackbox is part of factory.
I see it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/i586/black-...
"blackbox" != "black-box".
Allright, but since the name is very close it will create a confusion.
We will need to rename the "blackbox" into something else - maybe "blackbox-ws" or "blackbox-windows" - or else it creates _a lot_ confusion.
Hi,
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Bernhard Walle bwalle@suse.de wrote:
- Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-08 21:25]:
Blackbox is part of factory.
I see it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/i586/black-...
"blackbox" != "black-box".
Allright, but since the name is very close it will create a confusion.
Only to people who soley rely on package names and read no descriptions or look into the package. There are tons of packages in the distribution that have similar package names. This is really a non-issue imho...
Henne
Only to people who soley rely on package names and read no descriptions or look into the package. There are tons of packages in the distribution that have similar package names. This is really a non-issue imho...
There are no lots - and definitely not something where 1 symbol makes huge difference. Not even letter.
Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.
* Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-09 00:35]:
Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.
Luckily you you're not the person who decides that.
Bernhard
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:00 +0100, Bernhard Walle wrote:
- Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-09 00:35]:
Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.
Luckily you you're not the person who decides that.
+1
Cheers, Magnus
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Magnus Boman captain.magnus@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:00 +0100, Bernhard Walle wrote:
- Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-09 00:35]:
Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.
Luckily you you're not the person who decides that.
You are responsible for creating a mess out of contrib.
There is huge downside of creating a mess, while renaming the package to something less confusing such as "blackbox-windowmanager" has no bad consequences.
Alexey Eremenko wrote:
There is huge downside of creating a mess, while renaming the package to something less confusing such as "blackbox-windowmanager" has no bad consequences.
blackbox is blackbox (not blackboxwm, or something even longer) and lots of users are used to that. I really didn't know about the game named black-box until now. Why not to rename this game package (to eg. black-box-game) if you want rename so desperately? But I really do think that blackbox and black-box are OK.
Alexey,
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:35 +0000, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Magnus Boman captain.magnus@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:00 +0100, Bernhard Walle wrote:
- Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-09 00:35]:
Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.
Luckily you you're not the person who decides that.
You are responsible for creating a mess out of contrib.
First, please learn how to quote. I did not say that (even though I do agree with what Henne said). Second; No, he isn't. I think you should take a step back and realize that a package name is a package name. We do, unfortunately, rename some package in openSUSE today, which cause some confusion already. We shouldn't keep doing that.
Cheers, Magnus
First, please learn how to quote. I did not say that (even though I do agree with what Henne said). Second; No, he isn't. I think you should take a step back and realize that a package name is a package name. We do, unfortunately, rename some package in openSUSE today, which cause some confusion already. We shouldn't keep doing that.
OK. OK.
Do we have a SUSE-wide policy for what to do with conflicting names in packages ? I think we can use that policy also for confusing packages.
Other than that I think adding other window mangers and desktop environments is a Good Thing for openSUSE. Perhaps, after blackbox next will be KDE3.
I will look at blackbox the package.
On Monday 08 of December 2008 16:54:53 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Name: blackbox Summary: A Window Manager with the X Window System as the Only Dependency URL: http://blackboxwm.sourceforge.net/ Version: 0.70.1 License: GPL Devproject: X11:Windowmanagers
Description:: Blackbox is a small, fast, and stable window manager.
Authors: The blackbox project
Applied Patches: blackbox-lib64.patch
- fix some hardcoded /lib's in configure
blackbox-0.70.1-includes.patch blackbox-0.70.1-gcc43.patch
- include some missing headers for gcc43
OpenSUSE Integration (init.d, SUSEconfig, permissions.d, etc): suse-blackboxmenu that uses the XDG menu
Testing Status: Tested on i586 and x86_64
But I think, that's this package should be added. So lets add it to contrib (I assume you as a maintainer of Contrib can do that directly).
JFI: does upstream knows about your patches?
Regards Michal Vyskocil
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