Alexey Eremenko wrote:

I have a question - is the project name Blackbox or Openbox ?

blackbox of course. openbox is comming later.

Blackbox is part of factory.

It is not. Please look at the actual package. Henne -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org

On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Bernhard Walle wrote:

* Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-08 21:25]:

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Blackbox is part of factory.

I see it here: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1-RC1/repo/oss/suse/i586/black-...

"blackbox" != "black-box".

Allright, but since the name is very close it will create a confusion. We will need to rename the "blackbox" into something else - maybe "blackbox-ws" or "blackbox-windows" - or else it creates _a lot_ confusion. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org

Only to people who soley rely on package names and read no descriptions or look into the package. There are tons of packages in the distribution that have similar package names. This is really a non-issue imho...

There are no lots - and definitely not something where 1 symbol makes huge difference. Not even letter. Renaming a package is very much needed in this case. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org

On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 09:00 +0100, Bernhard Walle wrote:

* Alexey Eremenko [2008-12-09 00:35]:

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Renaming a package is very much needed in this case.

Luckily you you're not the person who decides that.

+1 Cheers, Magnus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org

Alexey Eremenko wrote:

There is huge downside of creating a mess, while renaming the package to something less confusing such as "blackbox-windowmanager" has no bad consequences.

blackbox is blackbox (not blackboxwm, or something even longer) and lots of users are used to that. I really didn't know about the game named black-box until now. Why not to rename this game package (to eg. black-box-game) if you want rename so desperately? But I really do think that blackbox and black-box are OK. -- Best Regards / S pozdravom, Pavol RUSNAK SUSE LINUX, s.r.o Package Maintainer Lihovarska 1060/12 PGP 0xA6917144 19000 Praha 9, CR prusnak[at]suse.cz http://www.suse.cz -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org

First, please learn how to quote. I did not say that (even though I do agree with what Henne said). Second; No, he isn't. I think you should take a step back and realize that a package name is a package name. We do, unfortunately, rename some package in openSUSE today, which cause some confusion already. We shouldn't keep doing that.

OK. OK. Do we have a SUSE-wide policy for what to do with conflicting names in packages ? I think we can use that policy also for confusing packages. Other than that I think adding other window mangers and desktop environments is a Good Thing for openSUSE. Perhaps, after blackbox next will be KDE3. I will look at blackbox the package. -- -Alexey Eromenko "Technologov" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-contrib+help@opensuse.org