Hey Guys, over the weekend I went to the openSUSE conference/Linuxdays in Prague/Czech Republic, here is my trip-report for the OBS community. ##General Comments The program of the first two days was more focused on things that are only loosely connected to OBS like FOSS/commons/freedom in general, user workshops and applications. It also featured a gentoo track but they don't have much use for a build service... Monday and Tuesday on the other hand where focused solely on openSUSE and here the OBS, naturally, played a bigger role. All in all it was nice to meet so many OBS users and hear how, what we produce together, makes their FOSS-life a little bit easier. Also nobody screamed at Coolo or me, no one tried to beat us up. So I guess we can't do everything wrong ;-) ##Program related to OBS I've blogged about it before going there. Check out http://openbuildservice.org/2012/10/17/obs-%40-osc/ ###OBS Packager Workshop The room was packed. Somewhere around 30 people participated in our packager workshop and successfully built packages and tried the collaboration features of the OBS. BTW this workshop (and others) is also online¹ and whenever you can, you should hold it at FOSS events! The Libreoffice file includes notes and everything. Check it out. ¹ http://openbuildservice.org/help/materials/ It's modeled after the two screencasts we have, which you also find there. ###OBS for embedded projects Karsten Keil talked about the transparent cross compiling feature B1 is developing for the OBS and the motivation behind it. It was recorded so watch out for it on http://blip.tv/opensuse (it's not released yet). The code is in their fork here: https://github.com/b1-systems/open-build-service ###Packaging tools Daniel Lovasko presented some scripts that make it easier to automate some tasks packagers do repeatedly. It's currently done _around_ osc/rpm, but as far as I could gather some of it is already in python and it could be made a nice OSC plugin. The recording of the talk is here: http://blip.tv/opensuse/osc12-packaging-tools-6410647 And the code here: https://gitorious.org/opensuse/pack-tools ###Future of OBS BoF We talked a little bit about the general features on the roadmap, we showed how the webui looks in master, talked about where osc2 is heading and so on. We also dived a bit into wishes for the near future.
From the ~10 participants I heard
1. Mobile client to do package reviews. People would like to do that task on the train or something very much. 2. Native build hosts for ARM 3. Take another look as the webui/osc from the user experience perspective. Introduce some other personas than the casual packager the current UI's are optimized for. 4. Somehow get going on Hermes fixes and features again but that is currently not really possible for us with the man-power we have. ##Ideas/Features Here are the ideas for features I heard floating around @ osc12 on the hallway, in personal conversations and in talks not really related to OBS. ###osc related * osc plugin to search and install packages from all OBS projects. Basically software.o.o for the command line. Should probably rather be a zypper plugin but is seen as missing feature of the OBS. * Using some VCS _only_ for checkouts. Like an osc plugin that makes it easy to store intermediate steps between checkout & checkin to the OBS ###backend related * Put a "build at my machine" button on home: projects that somehow builds packages (exclusively from this projct) on a local worker instance. So people can use their own hardware as worker. ###webui related * Merge the monitor and the status pages in the webui because they are confusing the casual submitter * Clean up the users tab to not show project maintainers by default, only maintainers/bugowners so people know whom to contact. * If there is a problem with a package in a project, the devel_project should shown it in it's status page as well. Related talk: * Introduce some gamification into the webui. Like badges for the Nth built package or the Nth submitrequest. Top packager lists and stuff like that. Related talk: http://blip.tv/opensuse/osc12-gamefiction-6410559 That's it, I hope you enjoyed this report. The next trip on our radar are the Erlangener Linuxtage the weekend after next where Adrian and me will do the Facts, Features, Future talk (also available on http://openbuildservice.org/help/materials/ as you guessed ;-) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org To contact the owner, e-mail: email@example.com
Le 24/10/2012 17:24, Henne Vogelsang a écrit :
screamed at Coolo or me, no one tried to beat us up. So I guess we can't do everything wrong ;-)
I like you :-). Shame I coudn't come this year jdd -- http://www.dodin.org http://jddtube.dodin.org/20120616-52-highway_v1115 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org To contact the owner, e-mail: email@example.com
On Wednesday 2012-10-24 17:24, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
over the weekend I went to the openSUSE conference/Linuxdays in Prague/Czech Republic, here is my trip-report for the OBS community.
##General Comments The program of the first two days was more focused on things that are only loosely connected to OBS like FOSS/commons/freedom in general, user workshops and applications. It also featured a gentoo track but they don't have much use for a build service...
They may not have much use for the repository part of a build service (since many packages are user-specific), but the building part, there certainly is room for. Come to think of it, to make openSUSE gentoo-like, you would "only" need... 1. a project called "localhost" containing packages that contains a prjconf with your own %optflags 2. whenever you zypper-emerge something, if package does not exist, - osc linkpac openSUSE.org:openSUSE:Factory/pkg localhost/pkg if package does exist, - <build><enable/></build> the project when done building: - <build><disable/></build> so that the whole thing does not build in the background, unwantedly 3. have zypper-emerge imply `zypper up` from your localhost repo. and taking advantage of BSrv rebuilding all that's needed. :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org To contact the owner, e-mail: email@example.com