hi, on irc we had a discussion about adding some logical namespaces. It was started by looking for the right place for a php project. we now agreed on having a "server:" namespace. the first proposed projects in that namespace we see: server:apache (the former Apache project) server:mail (exim and home:choeger:postfix could be moved there) server:ftp server:php (php project, and php extensions, and my hardened php package) server:dns (i will move my pdns, mydns, nsd packages there. maybe the bind and dnsmasq package could move there aswell?:) ) It would be nice to have a server:voip aswell. peter nixon has some packages in that area iirc. :) The jpackage projects are moved into the Java: namespace. Some people might ask: why dont you just move php into the apache project. The answer is pretty short: Because it makes its impossible to build newer php against older apache versions. with the new layout we can add server:apache:<somedist> as build target to the php project aswell as the plain suse distros. :) So in long term i would suggest to join such logical project instead of having multiple "mixed purpose projects". if you want to add a package to such a project please contact the project owner on this list. keep up the good work everyone darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org