https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210881
Summary: switch to microsoft multimedia keyboard layout by default Product: openSUSE 10.2 Version: Alpha 5 Platform: Other OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: SaX2 AssignedTo: ms@novell.com ReportedBy: dmueller@novell.com QAContact: qa@suse.de
Hi,
in order to properly (without xmodmap hacks) support laptop keys by default, sax2 has to configure the keyboard map to the microsoft multimedia layout. It would be nice if it would do that by default in all cases that make sense (e.g. even non-laptop installations with keyboards that could possibly be such a layout) to make multimedia/laptop keys work on as many machines as possible.
the current xmodmap hack is the file
in /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hotkey-setup.xmodmap
I would like to get rid of that.
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ms@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #1 from ms@novell.com 2006-10-09 01:37 MST ------- if you don't mind send me the information of
hwinfo --keyboard
I will try to add a mapping based on the vendor/device id like I do for mice as well
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------- Comment #2 from wstephenson@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:06 MST ------- hwinfo --keyboard for HP Pavilin zt3000
19: PS/2 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at input.139] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input Unique ID: EXC1.TBWTwSuMeW2 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Vendor: int 0x0211 Device: int 0x0001 "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Files: /dev/input/event1, /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-4-event-kbd Device Number: char 13:65 Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
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------- Comment #3 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:07 MST ------- hwinfo for Microsoft natural multimedia keyboard:
22: PS/2 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at input.139] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input Unique ID: EXC1.TBWTwSuMeW2 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Vendor: int 0x0211 Device: int 0x0001 "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Files: /dev/input/event1, /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-1-event-kbd Device Number: char 13:65 Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
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------- Comment #4 from wstephenson@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:08 MST -------
hwinfo --keyboard for Logitech Access Keyboard
wstephenson@coquet:~> /usr/sbin/hwinfo --keyboard 20: PS/2 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at input.139] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input Unique ID: EXC1.TBWTwSuMeW2 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Vendor: int 0x0211 Device: int 0x0001 "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Number: char 13:65 Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown w
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------- Comment #5 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:08 MST ------- hwinfo for samsung x20 laptop
17: PS/2 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at input.139] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input Unique ID: EXC1.TBWTwSuMeW2 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Vendor: int 0x0211 Device: int 0x0001 "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Files: /dev/input/event1, /dev/input/by-path/platform-i8042-serio-4-event-kbd Device Number: char 13:65 Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=yes, avail=yes, need=yes, active=unknown
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------- Comment #6 from stbinner@suse.de 2006-10-09 03:12 MST ------- hwinfo for Medion kbr0108
22: USB 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at usb.122] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4f2_200_noserial_if0_logicaldev_input Unique ID: FKGF.+_k5c6xmAsC Parent ID: pBe4.fGtEn4pQAv3 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0 SysFS BusID: 2-1:1.0 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "Chicony Electronics USB Wireless HID Receiver" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x04f2 "Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd." Device: usb 0x0200 "USB Wireless HID Receiver" Revision: "0.03" Driver: "usbhid" Driver Modules: "usbhid" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Files: /dev/input/event1, /dev/input/by-id/usb-Chicony_USB_Wireless_HID_Receiver-event-kbd, /dev/input/by-path/pci-0000:00:1d.0-usb-0:1:1.0-event-kbd Device Number: char 13:65 Speed: 1.5 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v04F2p0200d0003dc00dsc00dp00ic03isc01ip01" Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #17 (Hub)
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------- Comment #7 from wstephenson@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:14 MST ------- Cherry linux keyboard
will@emsig:~> /usr/sbin/hwinfo --keyboard 17: USB 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at usb.123] Unique ID: PYMB.eZRaBnFeMl6 Parent ID: zPk0.ONEN4TeEMyD SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:10.3/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0 SysFS BusID: 4-1:1.0 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "Cherry Mikroschalter Keyboard" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x046a "Cherry Mikroschalter GmbH" Device: usb 0x0023 Revision: "0.32" Driver: "usbhid" Device File: /dev/input/event1 Device Number: char 13:65 Speed: 1.5 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v046Ap0023d0032dc00dsc00dp00ic03isc01ip01" Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=no, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #16 (Hub)
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------- Comment #8 from llunak@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:24 MST ------- No-idea-what-brand keyboard, something made in China :) :
21: PS/2 00.0: 10800 Keyboard [Created at input.137] UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_Kbd_Port_logicaldev_input Unique ID: nLyy.TBWTwSuMeW2 Hardware Class: keyboard Model: "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Vendor: int 0x0211 Device: int 0x0001 "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" Device File: /dev/input/event0 Device Number: char 13:64 Driver Info #0: XkbRules: xfree86 XkbModel: pc104 Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
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ms@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |dmueller@novell.com
------- Comment #9 from ms@novell.com 2006-10-09 03:32 MST ------- Thanks for all the information. I myself have a Microsoft Natural device which I will add as well. Anyway there is a problem with PS/2 connected devices. I'm sorry but such keyboards are not "plug&play" ready which means they don't answer to the escape sequence sent to the device. Therefore any PS/2 connected devices are "AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" which I cannot distinguish from a "normal keyboard" Currently I have the following list:
0x045e : 0x00db : microsoft # Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 0x04f2 : 0x0200 : chicony # Chicony Electronics USB Wireless HID Receiver 0x046a : 0x0023 : cherry # Cherry Mikroschalter Keyboard
Problem is I don't know which XkbModel you are using for the keyboard and which XKB options you activated. I use my Microsoft Natural keyboard with "XkbModel" "microsoft" and it works as it should but for the other devices I need your help
Thanks
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ms@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |RESOLVED Info Provider|dmueller@novell.com | Resolution| |FIXED
------- Comment #10 from ms@novell.com 2006-10-10 03:23 MST ------- ok, support for multimedia kbd setup has been added now. Currently only my private keyboard has been added because I can test this hardware. The Input.map contains among others:
# Keyboards # Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 # ---> is profile: microsoft-natural 0x045e : 0x00db : microsoft-natural # Chicony Electronics USB Wireless HID Receiver # ---> is profile: no information yet 0x04f2 : 0x0200 : <undefined> # Cherry Mikroschalter Keyboard # ---> is profile: no information yet 0x046a : 0x0023 : <undefined>
If you want your keyboard to be part of this mapping table sent me a working InputDevice section of your xorg.conf using a multimedia layout
Thanks
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dmueller@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #11 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-10-10 12:50 MST ------- ok..
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dmueller@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #12 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-10-10 12:51 MST ------- check which keyboardmodel works with the samsung x20
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llunak@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #13 from llunak@novell.com 2006-10-11 04:19 MST ------- I may be just missing something, but what's the problem with simply defaulting to the multimedia model if there's no better choice? Currently we default to the pc104 model, which means there are missing key mappings for many keyboards. If we change the default to the multimedia model, the only difference should be that now some key mappings will be superfluous and unused, as far as I see. Having something superfluous and unused seems like a much better choice to me rather than missing something.
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------- Comment #14 from ms@novell.com 2006-10-11 07:37 MST ------- If you call
cat /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols.dir | grep inet | wc -l
you'll find about 199 different multimedia descriptions. Which one of them do you think is a usefull default ? I think none of them can act as a default because especially internet/multimedia keyboards are very different from each other. The only standard is pc104 for us based layouts and from my perspective it is better to support the standard well as guessing a multimedia default
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------- Comment #15 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-10-11 08:03 MST ------- the hotkey-setup during start will configure laptop key mappings to the microsoft natural keyboard mapping. thats why it should default to this mapping for those laptops (which were reported above as PS/2 AT keyboard iirc).
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------- Comment #16 from llunak@novell.com 2006-10-11 08:15 MST ------- I'd say that any of them is a useful default, because: - pc104 has 0% chance of supporting the multimedia keys on a particular model, while any of those has 0+% chance - if I'm getting it right, the fallback plan is to go with /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hotkey-setup.xmodmap, which does exactly the same, just in a more hackish way
And in fact, the initial comment suggests which one to use as the default.
Where's the problem with what's said in comment #13 (worse problem than when defaulting to pc104, that is)?
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ms@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #17 from ms@novell.com 2006-10-16 07:45 MST ------- well let's see how it works. I enabled the inet type "microsoft" instead of pc105 for the console mappings of: de-lat*
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dmueller@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #18 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-11-11 16:29 MST ------- hmm, that doesn't help anything. it should be "microsoftpro", because the microsoft model doesn't have any mapping for multimedia keys.
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------- Comment #19 from ms@novell.com 2006-11-12 10:01 MST ------- a bit late to mention don't you think ? I will fix it
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ms@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED
------- Comment #20 from ms@novell.com 2006-11-13 07:36 MST ------- fixed
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------- Comment #21 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-11-15 09:01 MST ------- I'm sorry, I haven't verified before :)
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llunak@novell.com changed:
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------- Comment #22 from llunak@novell.com 2006-12-08 11:03 MST ------- Guess what ... 10.2 here still defaults to the pc104 keyboard model (comment #8 has the hwinfo, not that I think it matters).
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------- Comment #23 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-12-09 07:28 MST ------- I can confirm the issue with my qemu test installations (which has a multimedia keyboard on the host computer).
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ms@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |REMIND
------- Comment #24 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-11 02:14 MST ------- I only changed that behavior for the mapping of the de-latin1-nodeadkeys console keymap. If you have another keymap in your /etc/sysconfig/keyboard the microsoftpro will not apply. That happens intentionally because I want this enhancement to be tested in one environment first.
If you want the microsoftpro to be enabled for another console mapping as well, test first then tell me and I will activate it. I'm sorry guys but the expression "it works for me so change it globally" has been heart very often and often has introduced major problems. That's why I'm carefully with such changes especially if a keymap is assigned to a keyboard which doesn't reference the correct hardware
You can check the mapping table yourself:
/usr/share/sax/sysp/maps/Keyboard.map
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------- Comment #25 from llunak@novell.com 2006-12-11 03:10 MST ------- You gotta be kidding. So we work on supporting multimedia keys nicely by default, but they actually don't work by default at all because of some very unlikely possibility of breakages that don't get really tested properly anyway during beta phase since they're enabled only for one layout (which, however, has it enabled even in final)? And that's "RESOLVED"? Dirk: I guess we'll have to default to it ourselves in KDE setup.
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------- Comment #26 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-11 03:24 MST ------- yes that's great cooperation. The possibility for testing has been introduced on Mon Oct 16 14:01:35 CEST 2006, did you test it, you don't I tested it and it works for me, do you activate anything globally only because it works for you ? complaining after RC is simply too late for 10.2 but it can be easily changed for 10.3... that's something you don't want you are feeling offended and start kicking people who took care, great cooperation, great style, do what you think you have to do
by the way the status is "resolved remind" this is different from "resolved fixed" at least for me it is you can believe that or forget it
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------- Comment #27 from dmueller@novell.com 2006-12-11 03:43 MST ------- How about submitting it *now* for 10.3 so that we can get testing coverage for the full alpha/beta cycle?
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------- Comment #28 from ms@novell.com 2006-12-11 03:55 MST ------- done, changed it for all pc105/pc104 based keyboard types except old atari based keyboards... they for sure doesn't provide any internet keys. Package will be submitted tomorrow
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Tim Fechtner timmi@gmx-topmail.de changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|SaX2 |SaX2 Product|openSUSE 10.2 |openSUSE 11.0 Version|Alpha 5 |unspecified
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User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210881#c29
Stephan Kulow coolo@novell.com changed:
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--- Comment #29 from Stephan Kulow coolo@novell.com 2008-06-25 03:10:32 MDT --- mass reopening of later+remind bugs of 11.0
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User ms@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=210881#c30
Marcus Schaefer ms@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED
--- Comment #30 from Marcus Schaefer ms@novell.com 2008-06-25 03:58:07 MDT --- this is done
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--- Comment #31 from Fabien Crespel fabien@crespel.net 2008-09-09 07:51:07 MDT --- Hello,
I'm reopening this bug, because 'pc102' keyboard types seem to have been forgotten during the move to 'microsoftpro' defaults. 'pc102' is still used for French keyboards (in my case, fr-latin1) and some others like Spanish, Italian, Hungarian in openSUSE 11.0 (in /usr/share/sax/sysp/maps/Keyboard.map)
I tried 'microsoftpro' and it works perfectly on my French keyboard, so I see no reason not to make this change here aswell, especially as many other languages are already using it in 11.0 and seem to have no problem.
If it's already done in Factory, then sorry for reopening this, but otherwise I think it's very important to do it before 11.1 because it caused much trouble with hotkeys in 11.0. Please see bug #398774 for an example and a detailed explanation (see my comment, number 25)
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Stefan Dirsch sndirsch@novell.com changed:
What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium
--- Comment #32 from Stefan Dirsch sndirsch@novell.com 2008-09-09 08:46:34 MDT --- I will change the default to microsoftpro also for fr*, es* and it*.
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Stefan Dirsch sndirsch@novell.com changed:
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--- Comment #33 from Stefan Dirsch sndirsch@novell.com 2008-09-09 18:53:26 MDT --- fixed for factory.
sax2.changes: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Wed Sep 10 02:45:51 CEST 2008 - sndirsch@suse.de
- make "microsoftpro" the default for all previous "pc101", "pc102" and "pc105" models (bnc #210881)
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