https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c2 Henning Schnoor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |henning.schnoor@gmx.net --- Comment #2 from Henning Schnoor 2008-06-12 08:28:57 MDT --- More testing shows that the problem seems to occur only if some specific upgrades are selected. If I hand-select a few upgrades, the upgrade will usually work. If the updates that I select include the "amarok" package (not the kde4-amarok, this is just a KDE3 installation), then upgrades are not installed. However, this is not the only affected package, when I select all packages and deselect the three ones related to amarok, upgrade still does not work. So maybe something is wrong with the packages in question, but still the update tool should give an error message instead of silently failing. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c3 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |henning.schnoor@gmx.net --- Comment #3 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-06-13 04:06:56 MDT --- (In reply to comment #2 from Henning Schnoor)

More testing shows that the problem seems to occur only if some specific upgrades are selected. If I hand-select a few upgrades, the upgrade will usually work. If the updates that I select include the "amarok" package (not the kde4-amarok, this is just a KDE3 installation), then upgrades are not installed. Perhaps this is similar to bug 361497.

However, this is not the only affected package, when I select all packages and deselect the three ones related to amarok, upgrade still does not work.

So maybe something is wrong with the packages in question, but still the update tool should give an error message instead of silently failing. Could you please attach zypper.log. (See: http://en.opensuse.org/Bugs/YaST)

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c5 Henning Schnoor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|henning.schnoor@gmx.net | --- Comment #5 from Henning Schnoor 2008-06-13 06:30:59 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=222029) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=222029) zypp-refresh.log of "check for update" before problem occurs Instead of the (empty) zypper.log, I included the zypp-refresh.log of the "check for updates" directly before the problem occurs. The situation directly before the "check for updates" resulting in this log was that all PATCHES had been installed using openSUSEupdater. Then I clicked on "check for updates", which resulted in this log. Then I tried to install the available 600+ upgrades with the updater, and nothing happened (no creation of zypper.log). The updater tool still shows the same number of available updates (without checking for updates again). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c7 --- Comment #7 from Henning Schnoor 2008-06-13 07:40:50 MDT --- I am not sure what you mean with "latest 11.0". Is there a version newer than RC1? As I said, when you have a version that got all the upgrades and patches that were released for RC1, then you will not necessarily run into the problem, since the problem only seems to occur with specific upgrades. But I'm not sure if this is what you mean. Again, the easiest way to reproduce is to install a fresh 11.0RC1, and then try to download all the available upgrades (if you include videolan,packman and main update repository) via openSUSEupdater for KDE 3.5. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c9 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|tgoettlicher@novell.com | --- Comment #9 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-06-13 08:08:04 MDT --- According to http://en.opensuse.org/Roadmap openSUSE 11.0 is available on June 19th. Sorry, you will have to wait some days. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

So there's no way to check if the bug will be in the final version? I've tested with the latest version and the problem didn't occur. I'll close

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c11 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED Resolution| |INVALID --- Comment #11 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-06-13 09:03:13 MDT --- I guess (In reply to comment #10 from Henning Schnoor) this bug for now. If you find this bug in the final version please reopen this bug report. Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c13 Henning Schnoor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|INVALID | --- Comment #13 from Henning Schnoor 2008-06-20 14:50:12 MDT --- I now installed openSUSE 11.0 (fresh install, no update from RC1), and the bug is still present, description exactly as above. Maybe comment 3 was correct and this is related to bug 361497, since one of the problematic upgrades seems to be amarok, and here, the new version is provided from a different source than the original (installed) version. Reopening. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c15 --- Comment #15 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-06-24 06:59:32 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=223995) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=223995) zypper -x --non-interactive in -l -t package --name amarok I've tested the installation of a package with amarok from packman. While installing the package with 'zypper -x --non-interactive in -l -t package --name amarok' zypper asks for user input even though the '--non-interactive' is selected. See attached console output. Reporting an error instead would solve this problem. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c17 --- Comment #17 from Henning Schnoor 2008-06-24 07:21:02 MDT --- I am not sure this would solve the problem, because 1) after a failed upgrade, zypper.log is not even touched, so I am not sure the program is called, but more importantly: 2) the upgrades that opensuseupdater cannot install usually can be installed using YaST without a problem (simply "update all packages where newer version available", no further questions asked). This does not seem to be the case in the situation described in comment 15. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c18 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |henning.schnoor@gmx.net --- Comment #18 from Ján Kupec 2008-06-26 03:00:36 MDT --- Comment 15: Thomas, the output looks allright, and zypper does report an error with an exit status of 4. The prompt is there, but an automatic answer is used instead of waiting for user input (or not?). The updater can parse the <prompt> tag, check that it is a dependency problem prompt (1 - see /usr/include/zypper/prompt.h) and display whatever is necessery from it's contents (probably the description). I wanted to avoid writing out a separate <message type="error"> followed by a prompt in such cases. Bad approach? Comment 17: 1) hmmm.. yes that is a problem, zypper run as non-root (from the updater) has no permissions to write to /var/log/zypper.log. One workaround would be to set ZYPP_LOGFILE environment variable before starting zypper or the updater. 2) You're probably right. If you can still reproduce the problem with the updater, you can run the exact zypper command as the updater does (Thomas, pls correct me if i'm wrong) in the console: $ ZYPP_LOGFILE=myzypper.log zypper -xn up -l -t package -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

Just came to my mind: IIRC the updater uses zypper in, not zypper up -t package to do the package upgrades, right? You are right, opensuseupdater calls 'zypper -x --non-interactive in -l -t

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c21 --- Comment #21 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-06-26 03:43:35 MDT --- (In reply to comment #19 from Ján Kupec) package --name $NAME1 $NAME2 ... $NAMEn' -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c23 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Info Provider|henning.schnoor@gmx.net |tgoettlicher@novell.com --- Comment #23 from Ján Kupec 2008-06-29 02:12:55 MDT --- (In reply to comment #21 from Thomas Goettlicher)

You are right, opensuseupdater calls 'zypper -x --non-interactive in -l -t package --name $NAME1 $NAME2 ... $NAMEn'

OK, so it seems this bug is about ocasional dependency problems when running this command. So what doess currently happen if the updater gets <prompt id=1> (dependency problem) from zypper? Do you check for it to display a message like 'there is a problem with package dependencies which must be resolved manually ...'? Or do you just display error messages? The question is how do we resolve this, see also comment 18. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c25 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|tgoettlicher@novell.com | --- Comment #25 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-01 06:41:08 MDT --- (In reply to comment #23 from Jan Kupec)

So what doess currently happen if the updater gets <prompt id=1> (dependency problem) from zypper? Do you check for it to display a message like 'there is a problem with package dependencies which must be resolved manually ...'? Or do you just display error messages? The question is how do we resolve this, see also comment 18. I don't parse 'pormpt'-tags because kdesu doesn't support sending answers to it.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c27 --- Comment #27 from Henning Schnoor 2008-07-07 14:11:16 MDT --- I've encountered a rather strange behaviour with this bug - happened twice to me, on different machines: 1. opensuseupdater shows that patches and upgrades are available 2. I select all patches and all upgrades, click install 3. prompt for root password, but no installation 4. opensuseupdater still shows the same patches and updates as being available 5. I select only the patches, not the upgrades, click install 6. patches AND UPGRADES are installed by the updater This does not seem to be related to the issue with the dependency problem, but as I said, I also encountered the original bug when there was no dependency problem (i.e., YaST could install all patches without a problem). So this is probably another issue than the one that has been addressed by most of the comments, but it's the original issue that I filed the bug about. Maybe the best way would be to split this up into two bugs. The behaviour as described above is hard to reproduce, I would guess the best steps would be: 7. Wait until many patches and upgrades are available 8. Start YaST, select "update all if newer version is available", DO NOT START THE UPGRADE, just check if we have conflicts 9. If any conflicts arise, uninstall the packages that have dependency problems 10. Exit YaST 11. Refresh opensuseupdater, now only the upgrades with no dependency issues should be shown 12. Proceed as in step 1 of the bug description in the beginning of this comment I cannot reproduce this right now because at the moment, my systems are up to date and I'm stuck at point 7. I will try over the next few days. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c31 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wstephenson@novell.com --- Comment #31 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-21 08:15:30 MDT --- *** Bug 410874 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=410874 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User wstephenson@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c33 --- Comment #33 from Will Stephenson 2008-07-22 03:25:53 MDT --- About #31 too - sorry to be picky, you know the software so know if the problem is the same as this one - but the report concerns doing standard online updates to the base 11.0 software set, without me being really interested in it upgrading packages too. If the presence of upgrades makes a clean update difficult, opensuseupdater-kde should at least give a useful error message. :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c35 --- Comment #35 from Henning Schnoor 2008-07-28 08:11:36 MDT --- Re: comment 34: I do not think this is the same bug. In the report of bug 412166, an error message could be found in zypper.log, while in the issue reported in the present bug, the logfile is not even touched. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c37 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rschaffter@comcast.net --- Comment #37 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-29 03:46:19 MDT --- *** Bug 411300 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=411300 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c39 Henning Schnoor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #39 from Henning Schnoor 2008-07-29 06:24:04 MDT --- As mentioned before, this bug not only occurs when there is a dependency problem, but also in cases where YaST can install the patches without any questions asked. Therefore, the fix only fixes a part of the bug. Reopening. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c41 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jkupec@novell.com --- Comment #41 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-30 04:23:27 MDT --- I tried to install a lot of packages on a fresh installed 11.0 and found out that kdesu fails if the command is too long. In this case kdesu asks for the password but doesn't run the command and prints to the console: kdesu(4286)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::KDEsuClient::command: [ /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.0.4/kdesu/client.cpp : 196 ] no reply from daemon Jano, is it possible that zypper reads the list of patches and packages from a file? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c43 --- Comment #43 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-30 05:44:08 MDT --- I think there are different causes why updating fails without an error message. a) dependency conflicts occur and no message is shown. b) too long command for kdesu and doesn't run zypper. Henning, if there is another bug, perhaps you can isolate it by modifying '/usr/sbin/zypper-install' and find out which scenarios (beside dependency conflicts and too long commands for kdesu) cause your bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 Ján Kupec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED Info Provider|jkupec@novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c48 --- Comment #48 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-30 07:34:13 MDT --- (In reply to comment #45 from Henning Schnoor)

I guess with "modify" you mean to replace the program with a dummy version to see which parameters are used in the call? Yes. You could also add a line like echo "kdesu --noignorebutton -d -c \"( $command ) > $out 2> $err \" " >> /tmp/myupdatelog.txt to the script to log the called commands.

I'll try that as soon as the bug occurs again. Thanks.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c49 --- Comment #49 from Henning Schnoor 2008-07-31 04:10:49 MDT --- I'm having a completely different problem with the updater tool now - it does not show me any available updates anymore at all. In YaST, I can see that there are updates available, but opensuseupdater-kde does not show them, even after I tell it to check for updates now. I'll see if this has something to do with my setup or is a seperate bug, but it seems that it will be a while until I can provide the info for the bug discussed here. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c51 --- Comment #51 from Henning Schnoor 2008-07-31 06:05:28 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=231054) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=231054) Outout of /usr/bin/zypper --non-interactive --xmlout list-updates -t package -t patch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c53 --- Comment #53 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-31 06:14:07 MDT --- Only packages but no patches are available according to the xml file. If that is wrong it isn't an opensuseupdater bug but a zypper bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c55 --- Comment #55 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-07-31 07:02:37 MDT --- (In reply to comment #54 from Henning Schnoor)

No, this is not wrong, I guess my description was a bit confusing, sorry. In the XML file, the exact same upgrades appear as YaST shows them. Also, YaST is able to install them without any kind of dependency problem.

Just to avoid confusion, I want to stress again that this is not the same issue as the original bug - in the original one, opensuseupdater showed the available updates/patches, but was unable to install them, now it does not even display them anymore. These packages are shown in the packages tab if you enable "Show available upgrades" in the configuration dialog. These packages are treated as optional updates and the tray icon color is green because we don't want to encourage users to install optional updates.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User jsnel@few.vu.nl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c56 Joris Snellenburg changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jsnel@few.vu.nl --- Comment #56 from Joris Snellenburg 2008-08-01 17:12:24 MDT --- I was able to reproduce the bug in comment #41 (kdesu: no respons from daemon). Running openSUSE 11.0 with KDE 4.1: The openSUSE updater applet shows me 4 patches, 160 upgrades. * Installing 4 patches + 160 upgrades fails. * Installing 4 patches succeeds. * Installing 1 upgrade succeeds. * Installing 100, 75, 50 upgrades fails. * Installing 1, 25, 40 upgrades succeeds. * Installing 45 upgrades succeded the first time, failed the second time. Is there a limited stringbuffer being parsed as an argument? I suggest the title of this bug report should be changed to: "openSUSE updater only installs limited number of upgrades at a time" -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User jsnel@few.vu.nl added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c58 --- Comment #58 from Joris Snellenburg 2008-08-01 17:44:06 MDT --- I'm sorry for spamming (which I could edit comments) but first of all I meant "the maximum length of the stringbuffer than can be send to kdesu" Second, the second line I gave (with 950 "a"'s) actually has 1 a too much, so it still won't work), Klipbord was not working the way I wanted it to. Anyways, simpler would be to just test it out with this command (to show it's not zypper, or the openSUSE updater applet that's at fault): kdesu "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" resut: kdesu(19723)/kdesu (kdelibs) KDESu::KDEsuClient::command: [ /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kdelibs-4.1.0/kdesu/client.cpp : 196 ] no reply from daemon And then remove 1 a to make it work. Again sorry for the spam. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c60 --- Comment #60 from Henning Schnoor 2008-08-01 23:30:41 MDT --- Re: comment 56: I am against changing the title of this bug, since the "kdesu" problem is not what this bug is about (there is a different report on that). The current bug also appears in some situations when trying to install only a single upgrade. I agree that this report gets a bit difficult to read, since there are many different problems of opensuseupdater discussed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c62 Henning Schnoor changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|DUPLICATE | --- Comment #62 from Henning Schnoor 2008-08-06 09:07:30 MDT --- Re comment 61: The bugs mentioned do not cover what this bug is (or originally was) about. The bug reported here also occurs if there are no dependancy problems at all (i.e., when YaST can install the upgrades without any questions asked), and also if only one upgrade is selected. Therefore I do not think that bugs #414284 and #414288 cover the problem here. Reopening the bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c64 --- Comment #64 from Henning Schnoor 2008-08-06 13:01:46 MDT --- I was just able to reproduce the bug, with the package ktorrent-lang. I modified zypper-install as recommended in a comment above, and now know the reason why the command fails: opensuseupdater fails when the provider of a package changes. The new version of ktorrent-lang required a new version of ktorrent, which comes from a different source than the installed version. YaST simply installs the new version without question (does not ask for confirmation because of the change of provider), but opensuseupdater fails silently. Clearly, one of these behaviours is wrong, as the user would expect to be either asked never, or asked by both applications. The best solution probably would be to have some configuration option like "it's OK if the provider changes to one of X Y Z, ask me in all other cases", so that the user can provide default rules. Anyway, it's nice to finally know the reason for this bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c66 --- Comment #66 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-08-07 01:18:55 MDT --- (In reply to comment #64 from Henning Schnoor)

I was just able to reproduce the bug, with the package ktorrent-lang. I modified zypper-install as recommended in a comment above, and now know the reason why the command fails: opensuseupdater fails when the provider of a package changes. The new version of ktorrent-lang required a new version of ktorrent, which comes from a different source than the installed version. YaST simply installs the new version without question (does not ask for confirmation because of the change of provider), but opensuseupdater fails silently. A vendor change is treated like a dependency conflict. With the latest version of the updater applet the failed installation looks like this:

kupdateapplet output: --------

Operation was too complex: Problem: ktorrent-lang-3.1.2-0.pm.1.i586 requires ktorrent = 3.1.2-0.pm.1, but this requirement cannot be provided uninstallable providers: ktorrent-3.1.2-0.pm.1.i586 [http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/11.0/] Solution 1: install ktorrent-3.1.2-0.pm.1.i586 (with vendor change) SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany --> packman.links2linux.de Solution 2: do not install ktorrent-lang-3.1.2-0.pm.1.i586 Solution 3: Ignore some dependencies of > ktorrent-lang

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c68 --- Comment #68 from Henning Schnoor 2008-08-07 01:52:02 MDT --- re: comment 66

A vendor change is treated like a dependency conflict.

The situations are treated differently by YaST (for a "normal" conflict, there is a prompt, for a vendor change there is not even a notification). Hence if in any case of dependency-type conflict, we simply let the user run YaST to solve the conflict, then the user does not even see the conflict in YaST, so that would not work. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on|413233 | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User henning.schnoor@gmx.net added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c71 --- Comment #71 from Henning Schnoor 2008-08-09 01:55:33 MDT --- I'm sorry to keep coming back with this bug, but are you sure that the current fixes also explain the behaviour in comment 40? There opensuseupdater failed, but zypper could install everything without error. If this is not explained by the issues addressed in the fixes, I think we should reopen the bug. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User tgoettlicher@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c73 Thomas Göttlicher changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |grahamanderson@gmail.com --- Comment #73 from Thomas Göttlicher 2008-09-16 03:00:19 MDT --- *** Bug 419471 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=419471 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661 User jkupec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=399661#c75 --- Comment #75 from Ján Kupec 2008-11-25 05:21:47 MST --- (In reply to comment #74 from Henning Schnoor)

zypper.log shows that there is a dependency conflict for the patches (so I guess it's the same problem as discussed in this bug, opensuseupdater-kde does not handle these replies by the call to zypper).

It would appear so - bug #414288.

Is there a way to install these patches with YaST in 11.0?

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