https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c1 Karsten König changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |remur@gmx.net --- Comment #1 from Karsten König 2011-02-24 08:38:49 UTC --- =/ There has been some discussion wether to ship PulseAudio for kde as default or not. The decision fell towards default PulseAudio because that's where upstream is going, you sure have the sympathy of alot of the opensuse-kde team. I for example can't get skype to use my microphone... Feel free to kick PulseAudio off the system, but the decision of 11.4 has been taken and it's too late to suggest a change now -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c3 --- Comment #3 from Karsten König 2011-02-24 16:43:20 UTC --- Well you can play audio and modify all the streams that want to output audio right? So does not work together at all doesn't really fit in this case. And no unless you don't have any idea about how to make the audio stack work together better it's not going to change in 11.4 The message about the audio system not working should only be on first start when you upgraded -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c5 Karsten König changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |danielstefanmader@googlemai | |l.com --- Comment #5 from Karsten König 2011-02-28 13:58:58 UTC --- *** Bug 675431 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=675431 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c7 --- Comment #7 from Daniel Mader 2011-02-28 15:26:04 UTC --- Please let me know if translating this answer correctly: Currently, it is impossible to switch to another capture channel other than the default with PulseAudio. As an example, this would be internal microphone from todays laptops as opposed to the line-in. For all openSUSE 11.4 users with a laptop and internal mic, this will mean they won't be able to use, e.g. skype. Translation correct? I am aware skype is proprietary software but what it's not its fault that it is impossible to switch to another input channel. BTW, it has been possible with 11.3 though it was a little buggy there. It is completely broken now. Isn't this a regression? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c9 --- Comment #9 from Daniel Mader 2011-02-28 16:05:35 UTC --- will do, thanks :) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c11 --- Comment #11 from Takashi Iwai 2011-03-02 16:41:38 UTC --- FWIW, you can disable PA without uninstalling. Run setup-pulseaudio --disable once, re-select phonon backend to xine, then re-login. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c13 --- Comment #13 from Silviu Marin-Caea 2011-03-19 10:36:52 UTC --- I'm adding the comments from my duplicate bug, because I think they're relevant. The default KDE4 mixer has only very basic features. That is, it cannot access all the channels. Practical example: I have a computer with mainboard GeForce 8200. It outputs video and audio through an HDMI cable to a Full HD Philips TV. By default, after installing 11.4 the audio HDMI channel is muted. There is no way to unmute it (and keep the setting) using the KDE mixer. "Configure channels" shows one one option, "Internal audio"... It cannot be done with pavucontrol either. The only way I could find is by running alsamixer in a terminal window and unmuting the SPDIF1 channel. But this setting is lost after reboot. I had 11.3 on this system until 11.4 was released and there was a way to do this unmuting in KDE. It's important to mention that I have installed and configured pulseaudio on 11.3 and I didn't have the muted SPDIF1 problem. The most annoying part on 11.4 is that it always gets muted again after rebooting. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install 11.4 with KDE 4.6 2. HDMI audio output is muted by default 3. no way to unmute in KDE, have to use alsamixer. This is a usability issue, no discoverability. You cannot click around and resolve the problem. You have to know about alsamixer. Actual Results: No way to unmute HDMI audio output in KDE. Expected Results: Everything should be configurable in KDE, either KMix or in KDE "Configure Desktop/Multimedia" I understand that pulseaudio is the future and I'm all for it but there should be an update of sorts for 11.4 that fixes these problems. Just imagine the level of annoyance for the hypothetical Linux fan that sees every new openSUSE version advance on some fronts and always regress on others. Don't we want to win? With every version comes some breakage in major areas that should just work out-of-the-box with no argument and no exception. With 11.3 there was a black screen during installation because of KMS, with 11.4 there are sound issues. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c15 Nils Reuter changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |nils.reuter@gmx.net --- Comment #15 from Nils Reuter 2011-03-31 21:07:01 UTC --- Related bug: After updating from 11.3 to 11.4, flash sound blocked amarok sound and vice versa. I fixed this by executing setup-pulseaudio --enable as root and then reboot. Result: flash and amarok sound output now are working parallel, skype and spdif are working too (as they were before). Expected behaviour: This should have been worked out of the box. My source: http://kayschubert.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/flash-and-pulseaudio-in-opensuse... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=674372#c17 Stephan van den Akker changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |memelink.akker@planet.nl --- Comment #17 from Stephan van den Akker 2011-04-30 15:05:57 UTC --- On a 64-bit machine with 3 audio outputs: - onboard soundchip; - HDMI on a ATI graphics card; - Creative Labs SB Audigy sound card All 3 where correctly detected, All 3 where listed by Kmix, not muted, volume sliders OK, but: No sound from the Audigy sound card. I have not tried the other 2 outputs. Got it to work, only after: - uninstalling the drivers for the other 2 outputs in Yast; - telling pulseaudio not to used them with pavucontrol (nothing muted there, either, can't remember volume slider settings); I have no problem with pulseaudio (works fine on SLED 11), but I too question the way it is introduced in the KDE version of openSuSE 11.4. This is absolutely below standard! -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.