https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User ailin.nemui@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c1 --- Comment #1 from Ailin Nemui 2009-01-09 11:38:25 MST --- Created an attachment (id=264222) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=264222) strace of slow xterm startup. note the suspicious GBK-0 parts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mfabian@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.provo.novell.com |meissner@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User meissner@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c2 Marcus Meissner changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |sndirsch@novell.com --- Comment #2 from Marcus Meissner 2009-01-27 03:52:58 MST --- well most of the time is spent waiting for the X server while waiting for a fionts query apparently. should xterm not query those fonts? or is X buggy that it takes seconds to do this? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c4 --- Comment #4 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-27 04:16:04 MST --- I cannot reproduce this. For me there is no difference in the startup time with LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 and LANG=en_US.UTF-8. What are your exact locale settings? Is only LANG set? Do you use the default font setup or do you use your own font setup for xterm? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User ailin.nemui@gmail.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c5 Ailin Nemui changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|ailin.nemui@gmail.com | --- Comment #5 from Ailin Nemui 2009-01-27 07:48:31 MST --- I could narrow this problem down in that it is related to the input method, with XMODIFIERS=@im=local the xterm startup is fast too. % echo $XMODIFIERS @im=SCIM % locale LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_NUMERIC="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_TIME="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MONETARY="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_PAPER="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_NAME="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_ADDRESS="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_TELEPHONE="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_MEASUREMENT="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="zh_CN.UTF-8" LC_ALL= (i.e. only LANG is set) I will attach the output of xrdb -query -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c7 --- Comment #7 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-27 08:53:05 MST --- While trying to reproduce the bug#461243, I could reproduce the slowness of the start of xterm reported here. This seems to be easily reproducible in a default installation of openSUSE 11.1 with a Gnome desktop and all defaults. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c9 --- Comment #9 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-27 09:12:09 MST --- I couldn’t reproduce the problem on my normal workstation because I had the FZSongTi.rpm package installed. When this package is installed, -*-gbk-0 fonts are available. If -*-gbk-0 fonts are *not* available, the startup takes long. Apparently scim looks for -*-gbk-0 fonts. I wonder why, I don’t think they are really needed because - we are running in a UTF-8 locale anyway - scim uses GTK to display the preedit strings, I cannot see X11 core fonts used by scim at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 Stefan Dirsch changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC|sndirsch@novell.com | AssignedTo|meissner@novell.com |mfabian@novell.com -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c12 --- Comment #12 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-28 07:10:43 MST --- The FZSongTi.rpm is a commercial font package which was probably dropped from openSUSE because it doesn‘t have a free license. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c14 --- Comment #14 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-28 07:24:50 MST --- mkfontscale never produces -gbk-1 encodings (not even for FZSongTi): mfabian@magellan:/tmp/ttt$ ls FZSongTi.ttf fonts.scale mfabian@magellan:/tmp/ttt$ cat fonts.scale 8 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-cns11643-1 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-cns11643-2 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-cns11643-3 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-gb18030.2000-0 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-gb2312.1980-0 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso10646-1 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-jisx0208.1983-0 FZSongTi.ttf -misc-fzsongti-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-jisx0208.1990-0 mfabian@magellan:/tmp/ttt$ -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c16 --- Comment #16 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-28 09:02:56 MST --- 1) is not a good solution because there are other programs which use fontsets as well which will also suffer in zh_CN.UTF-8 locale when no gbk-0 fonts are available and the XLC_LOCALE file requests them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c18 --- Comment #18 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-28 11:24:08 MST --- Workaround: xterm -fx fixed makes xterm startup fast with scim in zh_CN.UTF-8 and zh_HK.UTF-8 locale with the unchanged XLC_LOCALE files. scim still works fine because it doesn’t really nead that fontset. Maybe the easiest fix is to set the "ximFont" resource in the xterm app-defaults. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c20 --- Comment #20 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-29 04:41:25 MST --- The slow startup of XEmacs was caused by the fontset used for the menus: /usr/share/X11/app-defaults/XEmacs contained: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! FontSet for menus when you use --with-xfs or --with-xim=xlib. XEmacs*fontSet: -*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1,-*-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-*,* The final ",*" caused the matching of the *-gbk-0 and *-big5hkscs-0 fonts causing a slow startup if such fonts are not available. But this has already been fixed accidentally by fixing bug#461244. To fix that bug I removed the ",*" from the app-defaults file which also fixes the bug reported here. By the way, I found that the XEmacs distributed with openSUSE uses Xft for the buffers. This is also an accident, apparently the macro "opensuse_bs" is now always on, also in Factory because Factory is now also built completely in the openSUSE build service. Therefore, the following code in xemacs.spec %if %suse_version > 1010 %define enable_xft 0%{?opensuse_bs} %else %define enable_xft 0 %endif switchted the xft support always on. I didn’t dare to do this because I thought that some old-time XEmacs users might not like it and the use of core fonts is not runtime configurable, it is unfortunately only a compile time option (Personally I prefer XEmacs with Xft and therefore I had it enabled with the above macro for the xemacs package in my M17N project for a long time). As I have received no complaint so far, I’ll leave it as is, I think XEmacs is better with Xft. I will soon change the compile options and add a patch to make XEmacs use Xft for the menus as well, which also avoids problems caused by fontsets like the one reported here and the one in bug#461244. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c22 Mike Fabian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |meissner@novell.com --- Comment #22 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-29 08:29:25 MST --- Add xterm package maintainer Marcus Meißner to CC:. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930 User mfabian@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=464930#c24 Mike Fabian changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #24 from Mike Fabian 2009-01-29 08:32:29 MST --- FIXED (xemacs was already fixed). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.