https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User bwalle@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c1 Bernhard Walle changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bwalle@novell.com AssignedTo|bnc-team-xfce@forge.provo.novell.com |sh@novell.com --- Comment #1 from Bernhard Walle 2008-05-23 15:27:12 MDT --- YaST people claim that every desktop environment has to implement X-KDE-RootOnly=true because KDE is the "standard". Or something like that. :) Anyway, Stefan, maybe can you add NotShowIn=XFCE; (note that the leading semicolon is mandatory) to all YaST desktop files that should be called as root. Xfce users can call the YaST control center from Xfce settings panel which prompts for the root password. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c3 Stefan Hundhammer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sh@novell.com |jsrain@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Stefan Hundhammer 2008-05-26 05:15:39 MDT --- (In reply to comment #1 from Bernhard Walle)

YaST people claim that every desktop environment has to implement

X-KDE-RootOnly=true

because KDE is the "standard". Or something like that. :)

No. That's a hint to KDE, as the name implies. If Xfce doesn't bother to honor that hint, that's bad for Xfce users. Looks like freedesktop.org doesn't have a standard way to handle such applications that require additional authentication?

Anyway, Stefan, maybe can you add

*I* am NOT going to change 87 .desktop files, add a change log to each corresponding pacakge, bump the version number, and then submit 80+ YaST2 packages (and then respond to an average of 20+ autobuild failures because of a completely unrelated previous change). Been there. Done that. Hated it. If anybody really wants or needs a change in all .desktop files (because of deficiencies in one window manager), all YaST2 package maintainers will have to do the change in their packages, add change logs etc. and submit the packages. -> jsrain (please evaluate if the result is worth the cost)

NotShowIn=XFCE; (note that the leading semicolon is mandatory)

to all YaST desktop files that should be called as root. Xfce users can call the YaST control center from Xfce settings panel which prompts for the root password.

AFAICS this is duplicating information. This will run out of sync quickly. IMHO it would be better to get an equivalent of X-KDE-RootOnly standardized by freedesktop.org or to add support for it (in one way or the other; other applications might be affected, too) to Xfce. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User bwalle@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c5 --- Comment #5 from Bernhard Walle 2008-05-26 05:27:02 MDT --- (In reply to comment #3 from Stefan Hundhammer)

(In reply to comment #1 from Bernhard Walle)

...

YaST people claim that every desktop environment has to implement

X-KDE-RootOnly=true

because KDE is the "standard". Or something like that. :)

No. That's a hint to KDE, as the name implies. If Xfce doesn't bother to honor that hint, that's bad for Xfce users.

Where is it standardised? Do we make our own standards now and blame others that *follow* the standard that they don't follow *our* standard?

IMHO it would be better to get an equivalent of X-KDE-RootOnly standardized by freedesktop.org or to add support for it (in one way or the other; other applications might be affected, too) to Xfce.

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https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c7 Stephan Kulow changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | --- Comment #7 from Stephan Kulow 2008-05-26 10:55:07 MDT --- No, after 11.0 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User jsrain@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c9 Jiri Srain changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|jsrain@novell.com |bwalle@novell.com --- Comment #9 from Jiri Srain 2008-05-27 02:35:55 MDT --- OK, agreed. Bernhard, I hope you are the right one, since xfce-maintainers don't exist in bzilla :-( -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User bwalle@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c10 --- Comment #10 from Bernhard Walle 2008-05-27 02:49:44 MDT --- In my opinion Xfce should follow the standard and not implement SUSE-only "solutions". There must be pressure to bring such things upstream in standards instead of patching all software. Pavol, if you want to implement that, ok, from my side that's INVALID from Xfce point of view. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955 User pnemec@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393955#c12 Pavel Nemec changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jdluhos@novell.com, pnemec@novell.com --- Comment #12 from Pavel Nemec 2008-05-28 01:31:59 MDT --- (In reply to comment #10 from Bernhard Walle)

In my opinion Xfce should follow the standard and not implement SUSE-only "solutions". There must be pressure to bring such things upstream in standards instead of patching all software.

I thought KDE-root-only was in specification (http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-lates...) But I can`t find it just now. It will be really nice if we can move X-root-only option to freedesktop standard. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.