[Bug 1032849] New: M17N:fonts/adobe-sourcehanserif-fonts, M17N:fonts/adobe-sourcehansans-fonts: incomplete package or wrong naming
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 Bug ID: 1032849 Summary: M17N:fonts/adobe-sourcehanserif-fonts, M17N:fonts/adobe-sourcehansans-fonts: incomplete package or wrong naming Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE.org Version: unspecified Hardware: Other OS: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: 3rd party software Assignee: jnweiger@gmail.com Reporter: guoyunhebrave@gmail.com QA Contact: opensuse-communityscreening@forge.provo.novell.com CC: thomas.schraitle@suse.com Found By: --- Blocker: --- Adobe Source Han Serif and Source Han Sans font families are CJK font families. They include Simple Chinese, Traditional Chinese, Japanese and Korean fonts. However, adobe-sourcehanserif-fonts and adobe-sourcehansans-fonts only include Taiwan (Traditional Chinese) fonts. We need to add Simple Chinese, Japanese and Korean fonts or we rename these packages, adding "tc". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jengelh@inai.de Assignee|jnweiger@gmail.com |i@marguerite.su -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849#c1 --- Comment #1 from Dingzhong Chen <wsxy162@gmail.com> --- Besides that, "Adobe Source Han Sans/Serif" and "Google Note Sans/Serif" are almost the same font except some mirror difference in their definition on font weight. Packaging fonts for both brands？Or can fonts-config deal with the the link from "Adobe Source Han Sans/Serif" to "Google Note Sans/Serif" , google-noto-fonts is maintanined well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 Dingzhong Chen <wsxy162@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wsxy162@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849#c2 --- Comment #2 from Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@inai.de> ---
However, adobe-sourcehanserif-fonts and adobe-sourcehansans-fonts only include Taiwan (Traditional Chinese) fonts.
They also include Japanese AFAICS, so I'm good.
Packaging fonts for both brands？Or can fonts-config deal with the the link from "Adobe Source Han Sans/Serif" to "Google Note Sans/Serif"
https://www.google.com/get/noto/help/guidelines/ writes """Put "Noto Sans" before "Noto Sans CJK". Currently, the Latin characters in the CJK fonts are from Adobe’s Source Sans Pro""" This suggests that (the Latin parts of) Noto Sans are not from Adobe at all, so there does not seem room for obsoleting either of {Noto, Adobe Source}. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849#c3 Marguerite Su <i@marguerite.su> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |CONFIRMED --- Comment #3 from Marguerite Su <i@marguerite.su> --- Hi, Jan, Adobe Source Han and Google Noto Sans CJK are the same thing. This typeface is a joint effect by the two companies. The only difference is: Adobe uses Source Sans Pro for the Latin part, while Google wants to use Roboto/Noto Sans. The CJK part of this typeface is designed to work with both Source Sans Pro and Noto Sans from the beginning. https://blogs.adobe.com/CCJKType/2017/04/source-han-serif-history-developmen... https://blog.typekit.com/2014/07/15/introducing-source-han-sans/ And Google wants you to prefix with Noto Sans to override the Source Sans Pro part (the Latin part to be specific) That's how the URL you pasted reads. The Latin part is just Adobe Source Sans Pro in both Noto Sans CJK and Adobe Source Han. and their CJK part are the same too. Google just renames it without changing anything. AND: openSUSE M17N maintainers (or Petr to be specific) have a fonts-config package, which contains all the system fontconfig configurations. In that package, we'll override both. That is, neither Sources Sans Pro or Noto Sans will be used for displaying Latin. Every Latin on openSUSE is displayed with the same font (even on CJK systems) that we choose by ourselves. So considering that, this bug is valid. Because: 1. Google used Adobe Source Han exactly, just renamed to Noto Sans CJK. 2. Google prefixed it with Noto Sans to get what they want. it's a workaround. the font is still the same. Personally I think the best way to fix this is to strip CJK part entirely from the packages mentioned in this report. And let Google Noto provides it (because the later has a full coverage right now, this will save you a lot of work). Greetings Marguerite -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849#c4 --- Comment #4 from Marguerite Su <i@marguerite.su> --- The only things needed to investigate are: 1. Is there any package (like application/game) requires the CJK part of Adobe Source Han. like hardcode "Source Han" into itself. 2. How can we "provides" Adobe Source Han in fontconfig level (not just package level) so that when a website hardcodes "Source Han", we'll display the text with "Noto Sans CJK SC". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1032849 Yunhe Guo <yunhe.guo@protonmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |i@guoyunhe.me -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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