[Bug 1118689] New: 32bit x86 4.19 pae and vanilla kernels randomly lockup or trigger reboot
http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118689 Bug ID: 1118689 Summary: 32bit x86 4.19 pae and vanilla kernels randomly lockup or trigger reboot Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE Tumbleweed Version: Current Hardware: i686 OS: Other Status: NEW Severity: Major Priority: P5 - None Component: Kernel Assignee: kernel-maintainers@forge.provo.novell.com Reporter: mrmazda@earthlink.net QA Contact: qa-bugs@suse.de Found By: --- Blocker: --- More info in forum thread: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/534078-Runs-only-with-the-recover... # lscpu Architecture: i686 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit Byte Order: Little Endian CPU(s): 2 On-line CPU(s) list: 0,1 Thread(s) per core: 2 Core(s) per socket: 1 Socket(s): 1 Vendor ID: GenuineIntel CPU family: 15 Model: 4 Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Stepping: 3 CPU MHz: 2992.597 BogoMIPS: 5985.19 L1d cache: 16K L2 cache: 2048K Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx lm constant_tsc pebs bts cpuid pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est cid cx16 xtpr # free total used free shared buff/cache available Mem: 2062696 279968 1120112 1660 662616 1551448 Swap: 530108 0 530108 # cat /proc/cmdline root=LABEL=osTWst80 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume vga=791 video=1024x768@60 video=1440x900@60 5 # uname -a Linux gx151 4.19.5-1-default #1 SMP Tue Nov 27 19:56:09 UTC 2018 (6210279) i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux PC was working fine on 4.18.15 pae before upgrade to 20181204 that included 4.19.5 pae. With 4.19, lockups or random reboots would occur at any time, sometimes before completion of init, other times after running X for a while, sometimes while running in multi-user. So, I ran memtest for several hours without erros, then installed vanilla and default kernels. Vanilla rebooted virtually as soon as initrd loaded. Default seems to be working as well as 4.18.15-pae works at least so far through upgrade to 20181205. Attempts to catch clues from journal proved fruitless due to journal "file truncation". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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With "graphical boot" I mean the boot menu is in high-resolution. You can switch to textmode in Yast -> system -> bootloader -> tab: kernel parameter -> box: [] Use graphical console / Graphik-Konsole benutzen UnSelecting the bootloader "graphical console" is a sufficient workaround on my side.
I'm still not sure what you want from me here. Ever since Grub as an option was terminated, the only time I see a YaST Bootloader screen on my own hardware is during installation, where, except on UEFI systems, I customarily select to install no bootloader. With the exception of UEFI, all Gnu Linux operating systems here are booted using an openSUSE Grub 0.97 version, usually 0.97.194.
To check if PTI is enabled on your fedora installation you have to look for a line Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled in dmesg output.
dmesg | grep -i 'page table' and dmesg | grep -i isola both return null with 4.20.6-100.fc28.i686
According your description your CPU supports 64bit, too. Did you try a 64bit operating system?
I don't know how to answer this. I have hundreds of bootable operating system installations. Whether half or more are using 64bit kernels I have no idea. I didn't do my first 64bit installation on any of my own PCs until around the time openSUSE announced there would be no 32bit Leap. I think I have at most 4 PCs with both 32bit and 64bit installed, more than I care to have already, so I intend to create no more purposely. Comment #29 & #32 host gx280 was selected for the test that resulted in comment #29 because it has the fastest CPU clock on hardware on which I have running 32bit versions of openSUSE and Fedora and Debian, along with a gfxchip supported by a KMS Xorg driver, not because of its CPU's optimal arch. None of my 64bit installations exhibit this bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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With "graphical boot" I mean the boot menu is in high-resolution. You can switch to textmode in Yast -> system -> bootloader -> tab: kernel parameter -> box: [] Use graphical console / Graphik-Konsole benutzen UnSelecting the bootloader "graphical console" is a sufficient workaround on my side.
I'm still not sure what you want from me here. Ever since Grub as an option was terminated, the only time I see a YaST Bootloader screen on my own hardware is during installation, where, except on UEFI systems, I customarily select to install no bootloader. With the exception of UEFI, all Gnu Linux operating systems here are booted using an openSUSE Grub 0.97 version, usually 0.97.194.
I don't mean some "YaST Bootloader screen" that shows up during boot, but the configuration of the bootloader inside YaST: You have to start the OS you usually configure the bootloader with, and start YaST using the menu, or by typing /usr/bin/xdg-su -c /sbin/yast2 into an xterm, then find the setting as mentioned above.
To check if PTI is enabled on your fedora installation you have to look for a line Kernel/User page tables isolation: enabled in dmesg output.
dmesg | grep -i 'page table' and dmesg | grep -i isola both return null with 4.20.6-100.fc28.i686
So PTI seems not enabled on your fedora(kernel). To check if fedora is in principle also affected from the bug you would have to enable PTI in your fedora(kernel) or use fedoras pae-kernel, if available; or compile yourself.
According your description your CPU supports 64bit, too. Did you try a 64bit operating system?
I don't know how to answer this. I have hundreds of bootable operating system installations. Whether half or more are using 64bit kernels I have no
Until now I had the opinion you have one system with different partitions and operating systems on them. And the bug only occurs on your machine with its special components and mine (both with Pentium 4 CPU, both with AMD Radeon graphics), and nobody else cares since this setup is so unusual nowadays...
idea. I didn't do my first 64bit installation on any of my own PCs until around the time openSUSE announced there would be no 32bit Leap. I think I have at most 4 PCs with both 32bit and 64bit installed, more than I care to have already, so I intend to create no more purposely. Comment #29 & #32 host gx280 was selected for the test that resulted in comment #29 because it has the fastest CPU clock on hardware on which I have running 32bit versions of openSUSE and Fedora and Debian, along with a gfxchip supported by a KMS Xorg driver, not because of its CPU's optimal arch. None of my 64bit installations exhibit this bug.
So in reality you have 4 different machines which all exhibit this bug: provided that a 32bit pae kernel is used, PTI is enabled, kernel-modeset is active and Hyperthreading is enabled, right? Do you have a box with a real multicore CPU, where you can switch Hyperthreading off and still have more threads in parallel: for checking if Hyperthreading is the culprit or just using a multi core system. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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So in reality you have 4 different machines which all exhibit this bug: provided that a 32bit pae kernel is used, PTI is enabled, kernel-modeset is active and Hyperthreading is enabled, right?
I'm not sure, due to lack of inventory of what has PTI enabled. Otherwise, true.
Do you have a box with a real multicore CPU, where you can switch Hyperthreading off and still have more threads in parallel: for checking if Hyperthreading is the culprit or just using a multi core system.
I'm pretty sure every openSUSE here newer than 13.2 that's also genuinely multicore has been switched to 64 bit. Would it help if I tried Kernel:/stable/standard/i686/kernel-pae in a 13.2 or older installation, assuming it's possible? One of those I /might/ be able to locate. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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So in reality you have 4 different machines which all exhibit this bug: provided that a 32bit pae kernel is used, PTI is enabled, kernel-modeset is active and Hyperthreading is enabled, right?
I'm not sure, due to lack of inventory of what has PTI enabled. Otherwise, true.
I'm not sure about the 4 "machines" part either. I see here I've apparently only typed 2 hostnames. All my machines are multiboot, but several, including comment 0 host gx151, have only openSUSE distros installed. I noticed commonality between comment 0 host gx151's X600 and comment 37 attachment, rv370 Radeon, so I took the X600 out of gx151 and tried to boot its pae kernel. It wasted little time filling the screen with debris and halting. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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I noticed commonality between comment 0 host gx151's X600 and comment 37 attachment, rv370 Radeon, so I took the X600 out of gx151 and tried to boot its pae kernel. It wasted little time filling the screen with debris and halting. Am I right, you used some other graphics card and the problem persists. Whats the type of 2nd graphics card that shows the problem, too?
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Whats the type of 2nd graphics card that shows the problem, too?
Comment 0 Prescott host gx151: Normal use: # inxi -Gxx Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X600/X600 SE] driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1002:5b62 ... Temporary change for purpose of comment 39: # inxi -Gxx Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:2772 ... Comment 29 Northwood host gx280: # inxi -Gxx Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:2582 ... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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also affected: kernel-pae-5.2.rc3-3.1.gb4eda05.i686
Does blacklisting the radeon driver make the problem disappear too? It looks like radeon does not play with PTI well -- the reason is unknown to date.
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Does blacklisting the radeon driver make the problem disappear too? It looks like radeon does not play with PTI well -- the reason is unknown to date.
yes, blacklisting radeon kernel driver using modprobe.blacklist=radeon in kernel command line makes the problem disappear: system booted at least once without oops. I tried this with kernel 5.1.9-5.ge68f829-pae -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Can you please try to boot the systems with 'nohugeiomap' and report whether the problem disappears? Yes, with nohugeiomap the problem disappears on my system. I booted the system three times: no oops. I tried this with kernel 5.1.9-5.ge68f829-pae
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Do you guys prefer a test-kernel with a fix
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Unfortunately this kernel 5.2.0-1.ga58fb14-pae doesn't fix the problem. However the workarounds nohugeiomap nopti modprobe.blacklist=radeon work with this kernel.
So you still see spontaneous reboots with this kernel? Or is there a different kind of problem you see with it?
With previous/vanilla pae kernels I almost ever got lockup/oops and most of the time I could see something going on on the screen for some time. Sometimes screen was black. With this kernel when the lockup occurs the screen goes black, nothing is visible. I tried about 10 times and can't remember seeing something going on on the screen after the lockup/oops. Once it was possible to switch the NumLock LED after lockup, and once both CapsLock and ScrollLock LEDs began blinking after some time; both happened with black screen. And this kernel booted twice (out of about 10 times) with radeon/drm error, but working desktop and software GL renderer. [ 16.601558] [drm:r100_ib_test [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: ib test failed (scratch(0x15E8)=0xCAFEDEAD) [ 16.610832] [drm:radeon_ib_ring_tests [radeon]] *ERROR* radeon: failed testing IB on GFX ring (-22). [ 16.620090] [drm:radeon_device_init [radeon]] *ERROR* ib ring test failed (-22). I'm going to attach full dmesg output. I have to check if this kernel reboots automatically after some time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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Upstream review found another bug in the patch. I fixed it and re-built the kernel-packages. Can you please try the latest kernel-pae from
Hello Jörg, I booted kernel 5.2.1-1.g121429f-pae 5 times without finding oops in dmesg. Then I did zypper dup, without issues. Booted another 5 times without noticing issues. It looks like you fixed the bug for me, so from my side you can close the bug when the patch is in the opensuse kernel. Thanks a lot! If I still should try with the nopti option, let me know. Otherwise I think this test isn't necessary any more. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.
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