http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362#c1 --- Comment #1 from Wolfgang Bauer --- *** Bug 1000652 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362#c3 Wolfgang Bauer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |wbauer@tmo.at --- Comment #3 from Wolfgang Bauer --- (In reply to Freek de Kruijf from comment #2)

I also found a not used anymore .mo file in package kde-l10n-nl-16.08.0-1.2.noarch. In the build service, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/kde-l10n, I found that this comes from a tar file kde-l10n-nl-16.08.0.tar.xz, but I can't find where this file is coming from. I assumed it is coming from the KDE project, but my bug report on KDE was labeled DOWNSTREAM, so it seems to be an openSUSE issue. I inspected the tar file and found that this no longer used file, /usr/share/locale/nl/LC_MESSAGES/plasma_applet_kdeobservatory.mo, comes from that tar file.

This tar file comes from the official KDE Application releases, it is what they (upstream) deliver. You can download it yourself from http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/16.08.0/src/kde-l10n/ and have a look, kde-l10n-nl-16.08.0.tar.xz does contain plasma_applet_kdeobservatory.mo (in 4/nl/messages/kdeplasma-addons). It's also still there in the latest 16.08.1 release. We probably could remove this file (and the other KDE4 ones that might still be included in our kde-l10n-de packages), but it's probably not worth the effort. I think I read they were going to be removed upstream soon anyway.

The package in this bug report is present/generated in https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/bundle-lang-kde, however the spec file is too complicated for me to pinpoint where the issue comes from. Is it something KDE should do or openSUSE. I assume KDE is producing regularly new tar files with these .po or .mo files, but I don't know.

I already told you: during the creation of bundle-lang-kde, all the separate -lang and kde-l10n-xx packages get installed, and the files from there copied to the new bundle-lang-kde-xx packages. plasma5-pk-updates is not part of the regular KDE Application releases, so its translations are not part of kde-l10n either. Actually there don't seem to be any releases at all for a long time, the last one is the outdated 0.2 (from April 2015, see https://github.com/caybro/plasma-pk-updates/releases) which we use and apply a couple of patches upon. We have a separate tar ball with the translations in the plasma5-pk-updates package sources that gets published as plasma-pk-updates-lang. The translations are part of KDE's SVN (like all other KDE translations), but I don't know a way to easily download all of the current ones for plasma-pk-updates only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362#c5 Wolfgang Bauer changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |IN_PROGRESS --- Comment #5 from Wolfgang Bauer --- (In reply to Freek de Kruijf from comment #4)

I inspected that location and found a remark that the project was moved to https://projects.kde.org/projects/playground/base/plasma-pk-updates The maintainer is still Lukáš Tinkl. The last change is from 3 days ago.

I know where the sources are, they are in KDE's GIT, like all (or at least most) other KDE projects. But they contain no translations (except in the .desktop files). I only pointed to that page to show you that there hasn't been any release since 0.2 over a year ago. And that one didn't even have translations at all... Btw, projects.kde.org doesn't exist any more, it only redirects to quickgit.kde.org.

In the projects.kde.org for this project I don't see anything about how translations are handled. I only see Messages.sh scripts that provide the .pot files. So there must be a separate system to handle the .po files.

Anyway I have the feeling that the source of the translations should come from another location.

I already wrote that they are maintained in KDE's SVN repo, together with all other translations. See e.g.: https://websvn.kde.org/trunk/l10n-kf5/nl/messages/playground-base/ You should know that, otherwise how would you know that there are newer translations? I just hoped that you could tell me an easy way how to get the translations of plasma-pk-updates alone for all languages. The problem is that the translations are organized by language, not by application. That's probably better for the translators, but bad for packagers... Anyway, I wrote a small script to download them with wget from websvn (and I also added translations to the .desktop file via a patch), so expect the translations to be updated soon. I just have to still test another patch I added... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362#c8 --- Comment #8 from Freek de Kruijf --- (In reply to Wolfgang Bauer from comment #6)

Translations are updated in the develop project (KDE:Frameworks5), so closing as fixed.

It does not look to be part of the above project. However comment #7 seems OK. Apparently this now solved within openSUSE. In my view the KDE project should provide regularly updated tar files with translations for these type of applications (a.o. in playground-base, where this one comes from). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=990362#c10 --- Comment #10 from Freek de Kruijf --- (In reply to Wolfgang Bauer from comment #9)

(In reply to Freek de Kruijf from comment #8)

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(In reply to Wolfgang Bauer from comment #6)

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Translations are updated in the develop project (KDE:Frameworks5), so closing as fixed.

It does not look to be part of the above project.

It is: https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff/KDE:Frameworks5/plasma5-pk- updates?linkrev=base&rev=17

I entered KDE:Frameworks5 in the search box and did not find plasma5-pk-

updates in it. I did it again and now I found it.

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However comment #7 seems OK.

That's a forwarding request from KDE:Frameworks5 to 42.2. If that's ok, how can you say it is not part of KDE:Frameworks5?

see above.

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Apparently this is now solved within openSUSE. In my view the KDE project should provide regularly updated tar files with translations for these type of applications (a.o. in playground-base, where this one comes from).

Normally the translations get added to the source tarball whenever an application is released.

I did ask the maintainer to add it to the tarball and to update the tarball once in a while when translations are updated. Did not receive an answer yet. Thanks for your answers and effort. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.