[Bug 465194] New: installing net-snmp-devel drags all sort of other stuff in
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 Summary: installing net-snmp-devel drags all sort of other stuff in Classification: openSUSE Product: openSUSE 11.1 Version: RC 2 Platform: i686 OS/Version: Other Status: NEW Severity: Normal Priority: P5 - None Component: Patterns AssignedTo: coolo@novell.com ReportedBy: per.jessen@enidan.com QAContact: qa@suse.de Found By: --- Created an attachment (id=264352) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=264352) y2log gzipped User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070730 SUSE/2.0.0.6-25 Firefox/2.0.0.6 Build Identifier: I used YaST to install 'net-snmp-devel' - for some reason this dragged another few packages along: gnome-icon-theme popt-devel sane-backends python-qt4 audiofile python-qt python-sip rpm-devel esound-daemon libQtWebKit4 libesd0 libsensors3-devel hplip tcpd-devel libieee1284 python-ReportLab sane-backends-autoconfig graphviz-gnome libbonobo libbonoboui libgnome libgnomecanvas libgnomeui mozilla-xulrunner190-gnomevfs I think I saw a total size of 98Mb being reported - why on earth is net-snmp-devel dragging all this stuff along?? Reproducible: Didn't try Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c1 Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |per.jessen@enidan.com --- Comment #1 from Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> 2009-01-14 04:20:03 MST --- it's not doing that. Did you ever install anything with yast before? Yast installs recommended packages the first time. But without solver test case there is nothing to fix. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User per.jessen@enidan.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c2 Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|per.jessen@enidan.com | --- Comment #2 from Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> 2009-01-14 04:55:42 MST --- No, this was the first additional package I installed after a clean 11.1 install. Wrt a test case, how about we identify the problem first, then create the test case? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User coolo@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c3 Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Component|Patterns |YaST2 AssignedTo|coolo@novell.com |bnc-team-screening@forge.pr | |ovo.novell.com QAContact|qa@suse.de |jsrain@novell.com --- Comment #3 from Stephan Kulow <coolo@novell.com> 2009-01-14 04:59:39 MST --- ok, yast installs recommended packages the first time you start the software manager. This has nothing to do with patterns. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|bnc-team-screening@forge.pr |lslezak@novell.com |ovo.novell.com | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c4 Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO CC| |visnov@novell.com Info Provider| |coolo@novell.com --- Comment #4 from Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> 2009-01-16 06:20:56 MST --- The question is should yast select the recommended packages by default? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User visnov@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c5 Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|coolo@novell.com | --- Comment #5 from Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@novell.com> 2009-01-16 06:33:26 MST --- Yes, this is expected behavior. However, explanation for user what is happening might be a worthy enhancement. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User per.jessen@enidan.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c6 --- Comment #6 from Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> 2009-01-16 06:53:19 MST --- Just for my understanding then - why are 'esound-daemon', 'hplip' and 'sane-backends*' recommended? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c7 Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kmachalkova@novell.com, | |lslezak@novell.com, | |michael.meeks@novell.com, | |rpmcruz@alunos.dcc.fc.up.pt AssignedTo|lslezak@novell.com |sh@novell.com --- Comment #7 from Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> 2009-01-16 08:09:03 MST --- I think the packager widget should display the "Automatic Changes" popup at start up if there was no transaction at the beginning and there is at least one transaction after the initial solver run. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 Stanislav Visnovsky <visnov@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Priority|P5 - None |P3 - Medium -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User sh@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c8 Stefan Hundhammer <sh@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|sh@novell.com |lslezak@novell.com --- Comment #8 from Stefan Hundhammer <sh@novell.com> 2009-01-20 03:56:23 MST --- No. There is such a thing as overwhelming the user with useless popups. This is clearly such a case. The very last thing you want as a user is to enter a dialog just to find you can't use it because some annoying pop-up pops right into your face. If it is desired to show changes upon package selector start-up, it should be started with the "installation summary" dialog - which in this case would do the same thing, just in a much more user friendly way. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |ASSIGNED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User dmacvicar@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c9 Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dmacvicar@novell.com --- Comment #9 from Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar@novell.com> 2009-01-27 04:05:26 MST --- Comment #6, they are recommended because you have packages installed that recommended them. That is the behavior of YaST package selector. We can't investigate more until you provide a solver testcase like it is mentioned in the openSUSE bug reporting page. I would close this as INVALID or rename it as an enhancement to improve telling the user what is happening. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User per.jessen@enidan.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c10 --- Comment #10 from Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> 2009-01-27 04:42:30 MST --- Created an attachment (id=267870) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=267870) solver testcase generated via yast Okay, I've tried creating a solver testcase - I have no idea if I've done it right, so please let me know if this is useful. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c11 Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |schubi@novell.com --- Comment #11 from Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> 2009-01-27 05:28:39 MST --- Stefan, could you check the dependencies in the attached test case? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User dmacvicar@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c12 --- Comment #12 from Duncan Mac-Vicar <dmacvicar@novell.com> 2009-01-27 07:16:11 MST ---
!> Solution : !> install intel-iamt-heci-kmp-pae-3.1.0.31_2.6.27.7_9.1-2.39.i586[repo-oss]
Thats what the testcase install. The test case has no operation at all. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User per.jessen@enidan.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c13 --- Comment #13 from Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> 2009-01-27 07:54:04 MST --- I have no idea about how/when to create such a testcase - it sounds like I need to go back to the point just before I installed 'net-snmp-devel', and create the testcase then? If not, please describe in detail how I should proceed. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User schubi@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c14 Stefan Schubert <schubi@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |ASSIGNED CC| |schubi@novell.com Info Provider|schubi@novell.com | --- Comment #14 from Stefan Schubert <schubi@novell.com> 2009-01-31 10:57:18 MST --- comment #13 Yes, thats exactly the way :-) You can also use the new widget in the single package selection in order to get information "why" something will be installed: http://lizards.opensuse.org/author/schubi2/ If you still cannot find out the "why" set needinfo again. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User per.jessen@enidan.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c15 Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #267870|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #15 from Per Jessen <per.jessen@enidan.com> 2009-02-02 03:15:53 MST --- Created an attachment (id=269190) --> (https://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=269190) solver testcase generated via yast I hope I got it right this time. This is generated just before installing 'net-snmp', but I'm assuming the dependencies don't differ a lot from 'net-snmp-devel'. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User lslezak@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c16 Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- AssignedTo|lslezak@novell.com |jsuchome@novell.com --- Comment #16 from Ladislav Slezak <lslezak@novell.com> 2009-03-30 07:02:46 MDT --- It seems that only recommended/suggested packages are selected, you can check that in GUI, see http://lizards.opensuse.org/2008/06/27/showing-package-dependencies/ E.g. ghostscript-library suggests hplip-hpijs package. This is intended behavior. However, it should be clear that yast has already preselected some packages when user starts the SW management. Fixed in yast SVN (rev. 56460, will be in yast2-packager-2.18.4) - the summary view is used when there is something to install/remove at start. The automatic changes should be more visible now. I guess YOU could be modified in the same way... Jiri? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194 User jsuchome@novell.com added comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465194#c17 Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@novell.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |RESOLVED CC| |jsuchome@novell.com Resolution| |FIXED AssignedTo|jsuchome@novell.com |lslezak@novell.com --- Comment #17 from Jiří Suchomel <jsuchome@novell.com> 2009-03-30 08:00:43 MDT --- YOU shows the youMode, where the selected patches are visible on start, I think it is understandable enough. -> nothing to be done here, closing as fixed due to previous comment -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.
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