http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c2 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk --- Comment #2 from Takashi Iwai 2009-07-10 03:52:20 MDT --- To be sure, try alsa-driver-kmp on OBS multimedia:audio:KMP repository. This contains the modules built from the very latest alsa-driver snapshot. Choose openSUSE_11.1-Update if you are using the 11.1 update kernel. openSUSE_11.1 is for the original (first version) kernel. Please run alsa-info.sh with --no-upload option with alsa-driver-kmp, and attach the generated file here. I guess the docking line-out is working with dell-m4-2 is just a coincidence. The driver doesn't map the the docking-line-out pin properly to a volume control. Together with the automatic mic-selection via plugging, it's another TODO item. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c4 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk | --- Comment #4 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-10 04:42:35 MDT --- I performed the update and rebooted the machine. I did not notice any change in behaviour. Output of alsa-info.sh after update attached above. Note: I was not 100% sure which audio update repositories to activate, so please let me know if I did not update to the latest version available - I think this info is contained in the alsa-info.sh output, right?! Further note: With model option dell-m4-2, both "Import? Mux" affect both stereo channels, so both sliders must be up for audio. Quality was then very good though, if both Mux sliders were down at lowest setting. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c6 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #304369|0 |1 is obsolete| | Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk | --- Comment #6 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-10 05:40:32 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=304391) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=304391) Output of alsa-info.sh at version 1.0.20-git20090710 Ok, I think I got the update right this time. I am sorry for the delay! # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-git20090710. Compiled on Jul 9 2009 for kernel 2.6.27.23-0.1-default (SMP). However, apart from a new drop-down box "Mic Jack Mode", I did not notice any difference in behaviour: The line-out of the docking station does not transmit any output, regardless of the mixer settings. I have not yet tried the docking-station's line-in, as I think that it does not make sense to test this at this point already. I recall that the docking station's line-in did not work with model option dell-m4-2. I have not tried this option since the last update, but I keep going with dell-m4-3 and position_fix=2. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c8 --- Comment #8 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-29 09:35:14 MDT --- 1) The laptop itself has one built-in mic, one line-in and one line-out (both standard 3,5mm audio jacks). The docking station also has one line-in and one line-out (both standard 3,5mm audio jacks). 2) Within the last weeks and using dell-m4-3, I noticed that I could not switch to any other microphone. Always the built-in was used. Usually I connect a standard analog headset to the laptop's jacks, and a standard speaker pair to the docking station, including an unused extension cord for the line-in. 3) I never understood what "Import*" was good for anyway. 4) I will report back tomorrow after updating to the latest snapshot and trying option dell-m4-1 again. Several months ago, it did not enable the built-in mic. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c10 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk --- Comment #10 from Takashi Iwai 2009-07-30 01:39:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #9)

1) The two first mixer sliders are both labelled "Front". The first one is in fact the "Master" and the second one controls the volume of the built-in Speakers. (Note: dell-m4-3 has correct labels "Front" and "Speaker", albeit "Speaker" being the last slider instead of the second, but working just as well.)

Could you give alsa-info.sh output? Master should be present in addition. The order of the mixer elements are not important at this stage. The question is whether correct mixer names are provided by the driver. With the very latest driver, you'll "Front", "Headphone" and "Master". The Front controls built-in speaker and docking output (supposedly).

2) No matter how I set the sliders in the mixer, the external speakers connected to the docking station line out remain silent.

Plugging my external speakers into the laptop's own line-out activates them and disables the built-in speakers (as expected).

This has to be checked with alsa-info.sh output...

3) Switching between built-in mic and a mic plugged into the laptop's own line-in works as follows: For built-in mic, must select DigitalInputSource=DigitalMic1 and InputSource=FrontMic. For external mic, must select DigitalInputSource=AnalogInputs and InputSource=Mic.

The Mux sliders must be up for AnalogInput.

This isn't much changed from the older version. I'll rewrite the code later and simplify this. In future, both "Input Source" and "Digital Input Source" are merged into a single "Input Source" control.

InputSource2 does not seem to have any effect whatsoever.

This is for the secondary capture stream. You can open two streams at the same time (in theroy).

4) I guess that the label "Captuer" is a misspelling of "Capture" in both dell-m1 and dell-m3?

Yes. Fixed now in the upstream. Will take some time until the new alsa-driver-kmp gets rebuilt.

5) I cannot experience any difference between dell-m1 and dell-m3 now, except for the Front/Speaker-slider as noted under 1) and two additional buttons "IEC958" and "IEC958 Default PCM" which do not have any noticeable effect.

There are indeed only little difference...

(Please note that I am blindly trying all sorts of combinations in KMIX and just see whether Amarok plays or whether a SkypeTestCall works. I have absolutely no idea what the "Mux", "Mixer" and "IEC958" settings ought to do.

"Capture Mux" is named "Boost" volume in other codecs. It adds certain dB level (the unit of 10dB) to the recording level. But, IDT codec seems requirement of this to be non-zero for recording? I'll rename this in future version. "Mixer" is an item to be removed in future. Don't be bothered. "IEC958" is the official name of "SPDIF". -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c12 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk --- Comment #12 from Takashi Iwai 2009-07-30 04:33:33 MDT --- There is no slider for the docking station output because you have only two DACs, one for headphone and one for speaker. The docking output is supposed to be connected to one DAC (corresponding "Front" control). Does the speaker output work fine, right? Judging from alsa-info.sh output, the connection looks correct. Then the problem is that I might be looking at a wrong I/O pin. The question is which pin actually corresponds to the docking station output. Try with model=dell-m4-2, where the docking output worked before. Does it still work? If it works, give alsa-info.sh output again. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c14 --- Comment #14 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-30 05:11:29 MDT --- PS: I definitely know that the volume could be set separately. I was listening to music a few times at that time and, using Kmix, I adjusting the built-in speakers to a low, but audible volume, while I set the external ones to a higher volume, thereby getting a rich sound from all 4 speakers at once, since the built-in ones are located close to me (the docking station holds the laptop with an open lid upright in front of my face) and the external speakers being further away from my desk in the background. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c16 --- Comment #16 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-30 06:22:13 MDT --- (In reply to comment #15)

(In reply to comment #13) ... The recent change fixes this behavior to be equivalent with others. It's a side-effect of this improvement. So, understand like this: it was a sort of abuse of ImportMux control to have a similar end-effect.

Ah, thanks, that's interesting to know that this was just a random side-effect.

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Plugging headphones into the laptop's own line-out jack disables both the internal speakers and the external ones.

This is expected behavior.

Yes, I was mainly reporting this for the sake of completeness. I would also guess that the built-in speakers are also expected to be mute if speakers are plugged into the docking station's line-out. With headphones plugged in directly into the laptop taking precedence over both, right? (and similar for the microphones) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c18 --- Comment #18 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-30 06:40:53 MDT --- (In reply to comment #17)

So, the urgent issue is to fix the mic of the docking station...

I am confused what you mean by that. Maybe you are referring to your current version. Anyway, for clarity, let me repeat today's status as I can observe it: dell-m4-1 and dell-m4-3: GOOD: built-in mic and laptop's line-in working BAD: docking-station's connectors are both non-functional dell-m4-2: GOOD: docking-station's line-out works (together with built-in speakers) BAD: none of the three microphones are working at all -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c20 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #309309|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #20 from Steffen Jost 2009-07-30 06:59:54 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=309369) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=309369) alsa-info.sh for dell-m4-2 Renwed No, I cannot get the built-in mic to work at all with dell-m4-2. I managed to get my headset's mic working when connected to the laptop's line-in. (The alsa-info.sh output for the setting is attached.) HOWEVER, the quality is much worse than with dell-m4-1. It is noisy and scratchy. Unplugging everything, I cannot get the built-in mic to work at all with dell-m4-1. Not in the attached setting, nor choosing other settings for "MicJackMode" and "Mux". I think I tried all combinations. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c22 --- Comment #22 from Takashi Iwai 2009-07-30 07:11:12 MDT --- OK, then I must have done something wrong. Will check it later. The "Mic Jack Mode" specifies whether you want to plug a microphone or a line-in. The BIAS voltage is difference in these two cases, which influences on the quality. The fact that the internal mic doesn't work with dell-m4-2 is obvious. In this model, the driver is informed to ignore the digital mic pin corresponding to the internal mic. So, from the driver perspective, it's right behavior :) Just misinformed. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c24 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |NEW Info Provider|jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk | --- Comment #24 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-03 05:44:26 MDT --- (In reply to comment #23)

BTW, could you try the latest alsa-driver-kmp again? I'd like to know whether the line-out pin detection actually works with the docking station.

cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound #STAC92HD71B*

Short Answer: Yes and No. Detection works only after plugging and unplugging headphones. Long Answer: First, I am not sure which model option you want me to try. I currently use dell-m4-1, since I need the built-in mic and Skype for work. However, I guessed that you rather want me to use dell-m4-2, to which I refer in this reply: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-2 position_fix=2 options snd slots=snd-hda-intel # u1Nb.ztWiP1hTtl5:82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-git20090803. Compiled on Aug 3 2009 for kernel 2.6.27.25-0.1-default (SMP).

* I rebooted with nothing plugged in and heard sound from the built-in speakers. * I plugged in the external speakers to the docking station, and both were active then. * I plugged in headphones into the laptop and only they worked. * Upon unplugging the headphones, only the external speakers (docking station) worked. * Unplugging the external speakers (ie everything unplugged): no sound at all * Plugging in the headphones to the laptop and unplugging them reactivated the built-in speakers. So the docking station jack detection seems to work somehow, but is only taken into account after also plugging and unplugging of headphones. (PS: Please let me know if I should test things with dell-m4-1 as well. Note that I will not have access to my docking station for two week from Friday onwards, since I am going on a business trip with the laptop only.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c26 --- Comment #26 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-03 08:03:10 MDT --- I will keep testing and report back here, but which model option should I use? Will dell-m4-2 support the built-in mic at some point in the future? (The built-in mic is more important to me than the docking station.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-git20090804. Compiled on Aug 3 2009 for kernel 2.6.27.25-0.1-default (SMP).

cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound #STAC92HD71B*

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c28 --- Comment #28 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-04 04:20:24 MDT --- New test results: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 position_fix=2 options snd slots=snd-hda-intel # u1Nb.ztWiP1hTtl5:82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel

1) Docking station line out detection works fine, even in conjunction with un-/docking the laptop. :) There is a small problem with precedence in a rather unlikely scenario: If everything is connected, then sound is heard over the laptop's line out (headphones in my case), as it should be. However, unplugging the silent external speakers from the docking station then causes the headphones to fall silent and the internal speakers to come alive. Re-plugging the external speakers (docking station jack) then switches sound back from the internal speakers to the headphones (laptop jack). I suppose the headphones should remain on throughout in this admittedly rare scenario. 2) Microphones work over the docking station line out, but the labelling seems strange to me: "Mic" -> Laptop's Jack "Front Mic" -> Docking Station's Jack "Digital" -> Built-in Microphone 3) Sound quality of the built-in mic still seems somewhat worse than it used to be, but I might not recall it correctly. Best quality is achieved by reducing "Capture" to 60% and setting the slider labelled "Digital Mic", which I cannot see in alsamixer, but only in Kmix, where it has 4 settings to 2 (second lowest). Also very odd: Skype is now automatically adjusting the slider "Digital Mic" and not "Capture" as it did before. 4) Alsamixer shows fewer sliders than Kmix. In addition to the aforementioned "Digital Mic", I also see the "Mux" and "Mux2" in Kmix. However, I could not figure out their effect. Especially, they do not control the volume of the external nor internal speakers. 5) Do you know already which future alsa driver version number will feature this working setup for the first time? I am unfamiliar with the numbering scheme, but I would like to update the Suse Hardware Compatibility List Wiki (and I also want to inform colleagues using the same hardware). Or will this be Novell/Suse specific only? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c30 --- Comment #30 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-04 05:50:17 MDT --- (In reply to comment #28)

New test results:

1) Docking station line out detection works fine, even in conjunction with un-/docking the laptop. :)

There is a small problem with precedence in a rather unlikely scenario: If everything is connected, then sound is heard over the laptop's line out (headphones in my case), as it should be. However, unplugging the silent external speakers from the docking station then causes the headphones to fall silent and the internal speakers to come alive. Re-plugging the external speakers (docking station jack) then switches sound back from the internal speakers to the headphones (laptop jack). I suppose the headphones should remain on throughout in this admittedly rare scenario.

OK, it's a bug I overlooked. Now fixed in the upstream.

2) Microphones work over the docking station line out, but the labelling seems strange to me: "Mic" -> Laptop's Jack "Front Mic" -> Docking Station's Jack "Digital" -> Built-in Microphone

Yes, it's another TODO. Currently, the labels are statically defined. I will unlikely fix this issue in this bug report.

3) Sound quality of the built-in mic still seems somewhat worse than it used to be, but I might not recall it correctly. Best quality is achieved by reducing "Capture" to 60% and setting the slider labelled "Digital Mic", which I cannot see in alsamixer, but only in Kmix, where it has 4 settings to 2 (second lowest).

Also very odd: Skype is now automatically adjusting the slider "Digital Mic" and not "Capture" as it did before.

Maybe you are accessing "default" PCM in Skype, and I guess it's "Digital Capture", not "Digital Mic". The "Digital Capture Volume" is an additional volume controlled in alsa-lib (not in the driver), and appears only when you access via the PCM "default". This volume should be exactly in the middle (50%), which corresponds to no digital signal manipulation.

4) Alsamixer shows fewer sliders than Kmix. In addition to the aforementioned "Digital Mic", I also see the "Mux" and "Mux2" in Kmix. However, I could not figure out their effect. Especially, they do not control the volume of the external nor internal speakers.

The Mux influences only on the recording level.

5) Do you know already which future alsa driver version number will feature this working setup for the first time? I am unfamiliar with the numbering scheme, but I would like to update the Suse Hardware Compatibility List Wiki (and I also want to inform colleagues using the same hardware). Or will this be Novell/Suse specific only?

The driver version number is the official release number + git snapshot date. So, I think the driver works without extra model option, right? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c32 --- Comment #32 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-05 04:52:56 MDT --- (In reply to comment #31)

6) :( Without the model option dell-m4-1, the built-in microphone does not work at all.

However, the docking station's line out works fine without the model option now.

Strange. As default, model=dell-m4-1 is chosen. It can't be a driver problem. Perhaps you have another model setup somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d/* file or /etc/modprobe.* files? I remember that I saw two entries in alsa-info.sh output.

7) :( Even with the model option dell-m4-1, input source2 does not work at all. In Kmix (since alsamixer does not show these settings now), I ticked the record tick box on both "Capture" and "Capture2" and put them both at 95%; and Mux and Mux2 at the 3rd highest setting out of 4 possible setting, but regardless which input source I select, only input source1 is heard. I do not recall input source 2 to ever work, though.

(However, I test recording via Skype Test Call Service. Given 3) below, how do I test it with a more reliable program?)

"Input Source 2" is for the secondary PCM stream. Using it is a bit tricky, so better to forget right now. So, it's no bug, too.

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3) Also very odd: Skype is now automatically adjusting the slider "Digital Mic" and not "Capture" as it did before.

Maybe you are accessing "default" PCM in Skype, and I guess it's "Digital Capture", not "Digital Mic".

I did not change the Skype settings at all, the only thing that changed was the ALSA driver!

Yes, and Skype choses a strange thing. I know Skype is doing very strange things secretly that I can't know at all. It's no driver bug, as well. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c34 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk --- Comment #34 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-06 07:04:46 MDT --- (In reply to comment #33)

/etc/modprobe.d # grep model * sound:# options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 position_fix=2 sound~:options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1

/etc/modprobe.d # grep dell * sound:# options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 position_fix=2 sound~:options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1

There is no other directory in /etc that starts with modprobe.

OK, then to be sure, remove sound~ files, and reload the driver. Then give alsa-info.sh output to check again.

Also, the mic is not chosen automatically upon plug in. I always have to select manually, which is fine with me, but I understood an earlier reply of yours as indicating that it should als detect, no?

Not for your model. The automatic selection of the mic is activated only when one built-in and one external mic exist. In your case, there is another mic in the docking station. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c36 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution| |FIXED --- Comment #36 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-06 08:27:37 MDT --- Good to hear that it works now. As all patches are already in 11.2, let's close this bug now. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User swamp@suse.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c38 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:11.1:26647 | |maint:released:sle11:26624 --- Comment #38 from Swamp Workflow Management 2009-08-24 05:26:55 MDT --- Update released for: cluster-network-kmp-default, cluster-network-kmp-pae, cluster-network-kmp-vmi, cluster-network-kmp-xen, ext4dev-kmp-default, ext4dev-kmp-pae, ext4dev-kmp-vmi, ext4dev-kmp-xen, kernel-default, kernel-default-base, kernel-default-debuginfo, kernel-default-debugsource, kernel-default-extra, kernel-ec2, kernel-ec2-base, kernel-ec2-extra, kernel-pae, kernel-pae-base, kernel-pae-debuginfo, kernel-pae-debugsource, kernel-pae-extra, kernel-source, kernel-source-debuginfo, kernel-syms, kernel-vmi, kernel-vmi-base, kernel-vmi-debuginfo, kernel-vmi-debugsource, kernel-vmi-extra, kernel-xen, kernel-xen-base, kernel-xen-debuginfo, kernel-xen-debugsource, kernel-xen-extra, ocfs2-kmp-default, ocfs2-kmp-pae, ocfs2-kmp-vmi, ocfs2-kmp-xen Products: SLE-DEBUGINFO 11 (i386) SLE-DESKTOP 11 (i386) SLE-HAE 11 (i386) SLE-SDK 11 (i386) SLE-SERVER 11 (i386) SLE-SERVER 11-EC2 (i386) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User swamp@suse.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c40 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:sle11:26624 |maint:released:sle11:26624 | |maint:released:sle11:26629 --- Comment #40 from Swamp Workflow Management 2009-08-24 20:42:40 MDT --- Update released for: kernel-default-extra, kernel-ec2-extra, kernel-pae-extra, kernel-vmi-extra, kernel-xen-extra Products: SLE-SERVER 11-EXTRA (i386) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User swamp@suse.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c42 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:sle11:26624 |maint:released:sle11:26624 |maint:released:sle11:26629 |maint:released:sle11:26629 |maint:released:sle11:26630 |maint:released:sle11:26630 | |maint:released:sle11:26633 --- Comment #42 from Swamp Workflow Management 2009-08-27 02:03:27 MDT --- Update released for: kernel-default-extra, kernel-ec2-extra, kernel-xen-extra Products: SLE-SERVER 11-EXTRA (x86_64) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c44 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #44 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-28 09:47:38 MDT --- I accidentally updated today and the built-in microphone does not work anymore. # cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.20-git20090828. Compiled on Aug 28 2009 for kernel 2.6.27.29-0.1-default (SMP). I had also updated on Wednesday, and after that the built-in mic still worked, so it must have been broken either by today's or yesterday's update. I know that I should have disabled the audio-update repository, once things worked fine for me. Sorry about that! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c46 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk | --- Comment #46 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-28 13:11:38 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=315812) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=315812) alsa-info.sh for 1.0.20-git20090828 on dell m4400 According to YaST, I am using "alsa-driver-kmp-default", as I always did the entire time during this Bug-report! I did not change it, nor repositories. All I did was "Update all packages" in YaST as usual, but I guess I should have disabled the repository "audio:KMP_UPDATE" once everything was working. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c48 --- Comment #48 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-28 16:15:37 MDT --- Created an attachment (id=315829) --> (http://bugzilla.novell.com/attachment.cgi?id=315829) alsa-info.sh for 1.0.20-git20090828 on dell m4400 (2nd try) Neither: # rpm -qa | grep alsa-driver alsa-driver-doc-1.0.20.20090828-4.1 alsa-driver-kmp-default-1.0.20.20090828_2.6.27.29_0.1-3.1 According to alsa-mixer "Digital Mic" is selected. I tried all the alternative settings "Mic" and "FrontMic", but the command "arecord -d 10 testrecord.wav; aplay testrecord.wav" does not replay anything useful: - "DigitalMic": just silence - "Mic" : a sound like a continuous dial tone on a phone - "FrontMic" : just noise with Digital, Mux, Mux1 set to 100 and just silence or faint noise with lower values for these. Is there another way to select the mic apart from Alsamixer? I attach a screenshot from alsamixer as well, which shortly taken after running the newly attached alsa-info.sh output. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c50 Takashi Iwai changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|REOPENED |NEEDINFO Info Provider| |jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk --- Comment #50 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-28 16:31:13 MDT --- Could you run hda-emu like below? # hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0xb003 -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User tiwai@novell.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c52 --- Comment #52 from Takashi Iwai 2009-08-28 16:42:21 MDT --- (In reply to comment #50)

Could you run hda-emu like below? # hda-verb /dev/snd/hwC0D0 0x18 SET_AMP 0xb003

I meant hda-verb. The program is found in OBS home:tiwai repo, or just compile the package from: http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/misc/hda-verb/ (it's a very small program.) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c54 --- Comment #54 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-28 16:54:03 MDT --- PS: I downloaded "hda-verb-0.3.tar.gz" from the link in #52 and simply entered make. No warnings, no errors. I hope I picked the right zip package. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.

arecord -d 15 -vv -fdat -Dplughw foo.wav; aplay foo.wav Recording WAVE 'foo.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Stereo Plug PCM: Hardware PCM card 0 'HDA Intel' device 0 subdevice 0 Its setup is: stream : CAPTURE access : RW_INTERLEAVED

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c56 Steffen Jost changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEEDINFO |REOPENED Info Provider|jost@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk | --- Comment #56 from Steffen Jost 2009-08-28 17:11:54 MDT --- The following just produced silence. The level indicator remained at 0% throughout. Laptop undocked, Digital at 50%, Digital Mic selected. (I also plugged in a microphone and selected input source "Mic", which showed a recording level at 99% and normal playback of the recording. I do not have the docking station available at the weekend to test "FrontMic".) format : S16_LE subformat : STD channels : 2 rate : 48000 exact rate : 48000 (48000/1) msbits : 16 buffer_size : 16384 period_size : 4096 period_time : 85333 tstamp_mode : NONE period_step : 1 avail_min : 4096 period_event : 0 start_threshold : 1 stop_threshold : 16384 silence_threshold: 0 silence_size : 0 boundary : 4611686018427387904 appl_ptr : 0 hw_ptr : 0 #+ | 00% Playing WAVE 'foo.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Stereo

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http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975 User swamp@suse.com added comment http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520975#c58 Swamp Workflow Management changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status Whiteboard|maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:11.1:26647 |maint:released:sle11:26624 |maint:released:sle11:26624 |maint:released:sle11:26629 |maint:released:sle11:26629 |maint:released:sle11:26630 |maint:released:sle11:26630 |maint:released:sle11:26633 |maint:released:sle11:26633 |maint:released:sle11:26632 |maint:released:sle11:26632 | |maint:released:sle11:26631 --- Comment #58 from Swamp Workflow Management 2009-09-05 08:56:47 MDT --- Update released for: kernel-default-extra, kernel-ppc64-extra Products: SLE-SERVER 11-EXTRA (ppc64) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.novell.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug.