http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290#c6 --- Comment #6 from majid hussain --- I cirtenly would not mind in testing in searching I found this from the debian wicki on desktop accessibility, this piece from the gnome3, and mate parts. Autostart Of Orca Gnome 3 Orca can be enabled to start automatically in the Gnome 3 user session by hand by running these lines as normal user: eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled true MATE Orca can be enabled to start automatically in the MATE user session by hand by running these lines as normal user: eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications screen-reader-enabled true GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.mate.interface accessibility true GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.mate.applications-at-visual startup true I hope this is of some use, in other distributions a shortcut key is set superkey plus alt plus s to launch orca, but first we need to get speech. Majid -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290#c9 --- Comment #9 from majid hussain --- heya, only problem with that is not sure what the outputt would be on screen trying to install orca, and espeak, also if i did get them installed I would not be able to change the voice from dummy to espeak with out sited assistence. so still kinda stuck tryed 13.2 iso but yast2 is inaccessible complaines that it can't connect to a dir for at-spi if accessibility could not be added, wish there was a "simple way of unattended installs? but getting orca on the isos is the first step that needs to bee looked at. and espeak. thanks, Majid Hussain -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290#c12 Łukasz Golonka changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |l.golonka@yahoo.com --- Comment #12 from Łukasz Golonka --- (In reply to Pavel Dostál from comment #10)

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Steffen, could you PLS point us to some (Linuxrc?) documentations that describes what we currently have for visually-impaired people?

What we currently have is what Majid described: the boot loader reads the menu entries (enabled with F9). Then we have - nothing. There is in fact the detection of Braille readers still in place. But that's untested for years.

I believe the approach we had in the past (Braille reader + yast in text mode) is probably no longer the best way to go. Having something like gnome-orca + sound in the installation system (as the live installer is an unloved child) looks more suitable today.

And what we'd also need are some really patient testers giving us feedback. :-)

The braille + text installation is still good and lot of (especially advanced) people use it as their primary interface. The problem is nobody test it. Also a lot of (even blind) people don't have braille display because not everyone (nor even some blind people) manages to read it (fast enough) plus it's very expensive.

As Majid said, there are packages missing on the live CD and also during the installation it's not working either. Those packages are at least installed by default so if sighted person performs the installation then it works just fine.

Can somebody point me to any documentation about installing Suse with a braille display? I would like to try it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290 http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1102290#c14 --- Comment #14 from Łukasz Golonka --- (In reply to majid hussain from comment #11)

hey, would it be possable to reinstall the packages to the iso? untill this is somehow sorted out are there any alternatives to getting opensuse installed? if yast had a interface where it was pure text not ncurses orca has trouble with it, like debian's installer on there net install iso would also work, e.g press 1 for default partition skeem, 2 manual partitioning, would it be possable for me to gennerate an iso with these packages orca and espeak or something? the more accessible a distribution is, the better for said distribution because you will get more users, and the more users the more the word would spread. I really want to try and use opensuse! shame i can't just unsquashfs the filesystem over the exsisting partitions,

If you are really desperate like I was you can install Open Suse over ssh,. The yast2 even in the text interface isn't very accessible and often you have to check the color of the text with Speakup to figure out what is selected, but it is definitelly doable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug.