[opensuse-artwork] The openSUSE 11.3 installer
Hi listmates, The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)? gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork? Greetings, -- Javier Llorente
Hey, On 15.08.2010, at 21:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
Hi listmates,
The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)?
+1
gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork?
I noticed in the KDE Installation a wrong set "Next" arrow. It was like this (Sorry don't have a screenshot right now: | <= Back | | => Next | And on in the Gnome Variant is the "Next" Button a kind of "Reply Arrow" ... like edit-redo.png in Tango just showing in the opposite direction. This is a usability issue. Cheers, Robert
Greetings, -- Javier Llorente
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Hey,
On 15.08.2010, at 21:13, Javier Llorente wrote:
Hi listmates,
The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)?
+1
Thats why I made the proposal. I made a lot of snapshots of the installing process and recognized that incosistencies, but they are not only in icons, some times in colors of progress bars and buttons to.
gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork?
When u look to my proposals, there are not so lot icons anymore. I removed them nearly all. Only of two pages are "icons", that are the pages where the user have to make a choice.
I noticed in the KDE Installation a wrong set "Next" arrow. It was like this (Sorry don't have a screenshot right now:
| <= Back | | => Next |
And on in the Gnome Variant is the "Next" Button a kind of "Reply Arrow" ... like edit-redo.png in Tango just showing in the opposite direction. This is a usability issue.
br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Søndag den 15. august 2010 21:13:14 skrev Javier Llorente:
The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)? gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork?
Not sure if it's technically an artwork issues, but all the dialogs that will appear during a dvd install ("loading crypto stuff", "password too simple" etc.), match the installer quite poorly - mostly because the titlebars are blue. I guess this is an issue with icewm theming or something. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Hi! The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole? On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 21:13 +0200, Javier Llorente wrote:
Hi listmates,
The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)?
I think the present cursor theme looks good too (btw, that is no a GNOME-cursor theme, it is part of the package desktop-data-openSUSE that contains "SUSE theme files for GNOME and KDE"). It is also used for example in ICEWM. Consistency among icons is a definite requirement though, I agree. Whether we use GNOME-ish icons or oxygen icons, we should make sure we stick to one.
gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork?
Could you please point me to where I can get this (not just screenshots, but the actual stylesheet). I see nothing at http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art I am not a fan of the (very) dark colours discussed here http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 , but of course that might just be me. All the same, we should remember that the installer is the very first impression of openSUSE XX.X that forms in the mind and it is also not something that falls in the category of "Don't like it - so change it", unlike a desktop background. So whatever design choices are made they should be made very carefully, imo. Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 16 August 2010 08:17:07 Atri wrote:
The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole?
Robert Lihm is also involved into artwork. Better treat him good...;) Greets, Andreas -- http://www.andreas-demmer.de
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 08:49 +0200, Andreas Demmer wrote:
Robert Lihm is also involved into artwork. Better treat him good...;)
Oh, yeah? That is great, because the bento theme at en.opensuse.org is quite amazing (perfect really, simple yet pretty). Good to know, sure cures me of some of my fears :) Bye -- Atri -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On 08/16/2010 08:49 AM, Andreas Demmer wrote:
On Monday 16 August 2010 08:17:07 Atri wrote:
The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole?
Robert Lihm is also involved into artwork. Better treat him good...;)
Which does not mean that we don't need a group of people caring for artwork. This group is all of you! So please feel entitled to change things and take decisions. If you see some issues like these get going and fix them. Don't wait for someone else to decide. Those who do, decide :) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE. Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
On 08/16/2010 08:49 AM, Andreas Demmer wrote:
On Monday 16 August 2010 08:17:07 Atri wrote:
The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole?
Robert Lihm is also involved into artwork. Better treat him good...;)
Which does not mean that we don't need a group of people caring for artwork. This group is all of you! So please feel entitled to change things and take decisions. If you see some issues like these get going and fix them. Don't wait for someone else to decide. Those who do, decide :)
So then make sure we get a possibility to bring some sources to gitorius ;) I dont like to make a repository outside /opensuse there! Its a feeling like standng outside of the project. br gnokii
- Mike Tyson
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On Monday 16 August 2010 13:01:40 S.Kemter wrote:
Hi,
On 08/16/2010 08:49 AM, Andreas Demmer wrote:
On Monday 16 August 2010 08:17:07 Atri wrote:
The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole?
Robert Lihm is also involved into artwork. Better treat him good...;)
Which does not mean that we don't need a group of people caring for artwork. This group is all of you! So please feel entitled to change things and take decisions. If you see some issues like these get going and fix them. Don't wait for someone else to decide. Those who do, decide :)
So then make sure we get a possibility to bring some sources to gitorius ;) I dont like to make a repository outside /opensuse there! Its a feeling like standng outside of the project.
What exactly is the problem? Please educate me so that we can make this happen asap ;) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Hello,
The first question that came to my mind when jimmac left was about who would be doing the artwork now? Like is it going to be one person or the artwork team as a whole?
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 21:13 +0200, Javier Llorente wrote:
Hi listmates,
The other day I installed openSUSE 11.3 on a laptop and I paid attention to the installer's artwork. It uses both GNOMEish and KDEish icons and a GNOMEish cursor theme. Wouldn't it look better with one set of icons that matches the style of the cursor theme (ie: Oxygen)?
I think the present cursor theme looks good too (btw, that is no a GNOME-cursor theme, it is part of the package desktop-data-openSUSE that contains "SUSE theme files for GNOME and KDE"). It is also used for example in ICEWM.
Consistency among icons is a definite requirement though, I agree. Whether we use GNOME-ish icons or oxygen icons, we should make sure we stick to one.
I think thats why Javier asked the question, to make that happen.
gnokii has already done some work on making the installer look better http://karl-tux- stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 Any other thoughts on the installer's artwork?
Could you please point me to where I can get this (not just screenshots, but the actual stylesheet). I see nothing at http://gitorious.org/opensuse/art
I am not a fan of the (very) dark colours discussed here http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=2547 , but of course that might just be me. All the same, we should remember that the installer is the very first impression of openSUSE XX.X that forms in the mind and it is also not something that falls in the category of "Don't like it - so change it", unlike a desktop background. So whatever design choices are made they should be made very carefully, imo.
carefully means there are 50% that lave dark and 50% that love a lighter color? The installer have to be easy understable and helpful first and colors can support that. Thats all br gnokii
-- Atri
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