On Monday 26 March 2012 00:05:19 Bryen M Yunashko wrote:
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 19:00 -0500, Rajko M. wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:01:09 -0600
"James Mason"
wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 11:30 +0100, Petr Mladek wrote:
What is your opinion?
My opinion is that we should stop screwing with the application splashes. THe GIMP team in particular puts a great deal of effort into making their splashes. The LibreOffice splashes were designed with openSUSE and SLED in mind, while still being consistent with the Windows version, for branding value.
Programs themselves are changed to run on openSUSE, during package build, so it is fair to mark version with own splash. To be modest we can only add openSUSE logo changed to fit in splash.
I think James brings up a good point. I've always been curious about exactly why we (or anyone out there) does this. I cn certainly get it when in use of Rajko's explanation, but do we really change these programs? Is something as simple as "change the defaults and then package" all that is defined as "change"? I don't think so. it doesn't change the program itself, only its behavior.
So, in the example of GIMP, what have we done to change the program? I'd like to know more about this.
Little, we package and ship it and probably apply some patches. But all that's a fair amount of work. Moreover, the integrated branding gives openSUSE a more polished, professional and integrated feel. Basically, I think the splashes (and other branding we do, and shipping theme integration stuff like oxygen-gtk, common icon themes etc) are what makes the difference, towards the user, between a random, loose collection of software and an integrated OS. I therefor think that yes, we should do this branding. Even though most if not all app authors put a lot of work in their splash, I think this is too valuable to not do. Just my cents...
I liked local version with splash when I was following GIMP development, having stable openSUSE version and buggy upstream development. Of course, I know that there are many other methods to start exactly version that you want and I use them, but splash was and is additional assurance.