Bryen M Yunashko - 15:31 15.05.12 wrote:
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I think you've given some good feedback which I'm sure Andi and Michael will appreciate. I do think however that ultimately it is the artist's choice how to present their creation. We can appreciate or not appreciate Warhol's influences in this artwork and I honestly believe that his style has become so culturally pervasive that the style itself has become more recognizable than the artist himself.
I totally agree that artist can get inspiration anywhere. Just wanted to point out that there might be other interesting sources of inspiration actually screaming Prague instead of Pittsburgh/New York.
Bottom line, we can choose to reject someone's (Andi and Michael)'s artwork, we can choose to offer feedback, we can choose to embrace, but I think we have to be very careful not to cross the line telling them to go a different way. (Not that I'm saying you are doing that at all) because an artist's work is often deeply personal.
Yes, providing criticism which doesn't sound like mocking is difficult. And providing feedback while still saying that you like the work and appreciate it (which we obviously all do) is even harder, especially if you are really direct person and don't know all the smoothering phrases. My point was just suggesting a different artist, which is well known and well known in connection to Prague and also has famous recognizable style. Might be a good source of inspiration ;-)
I don't, however agree with the criticism about color palette branding. There are lots of "products" under the openSUSE Project umbrella that don't follow common branding guidelines. Open Build Service for instance. Each product should have its own flexibility to brand itself, and the openSUSE Conference is similarly a product offered under the openSUSE Project.
Well, the thing about palette I get in general, on different topics. That we don't use palette and we do whatever we want. Sometimes we don't use Tango although mostly we do. That this weakens our brand in general. I'm not artist, so I don't engage in most of the artistic discussions. But every time we do something new that ignores it, I get this kind of feedback from community. And as I was providing some feedback for this part, I brought it up as well ;-)
Likewise, I'm hoping to see the Summit expand and spread to other parts of the world so that we have multiple Summits, and in that case, we'll probably use the Summit logo that Andi created as the branding for future Summits sans the palm trees depending on the location. That logo too doesn't use openSUSE font branding guidelines.
I do agree that this proposed design should not be considered the logo for oSC because it doesn't fit into the concept of a logo. Apparently Andi agrees as well based on this morning's brief IRC conversation. I still say we should offer it up as posters (once the final design is done.)
Ok, that was one of my points, glad to hear that we are on same page.
And I would be very careful to assume to tighten any artwork design to "what does it say about about the conference?" I can assure you that despite best efforts and planning, the final outcome of a conference is often not exactly as it was the first day the team agreed to a set goal. :-) Let the artwork be somewhat flexible and let it be the artist's interpretation of the event. After all, openSUSE Project itself is subject to varied and diverse opinions of definition. :-)
Yes and no. We want the artwork for some reason and that is to promote conference. So even if we will have great poster with old Challenger and lady in bikini, I don't think it is a good artwork for conference. Unless it will be parked before the university and have Geeko painted all over it. As well as some abstract art styles wouldn't serve that well. Yes, we can put it on wall inside. But generally we want to relay some message and be a reminder of the conference. But we are getting off-topic here and I thing this doesn't deserve any deeper discussion. And we are just speaking about the same thing we want just in different words ;-) -- Michal Hrusecky <Michal@Hrusecky.net> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org