Hello Martin, Andy and the others of course too first Martin u are not the only one displeased, but thank u that he heard it again from u. So now the rest. Andy ur problem is the different understanding of TEAM, Team means definitly not, we are ur artwork slaves. But thats what u try to make with us. I had this morning little with Jos after I telled him from the logfiles what said in artwork channel from the beginning on, and now he have an other view on u. So now I am telling it all. Andy joined first time the artwork channel in January as I begun to form the art-team, he was interested to join and we welcome him. Then he missed all meetings, ok he isnt the only one and that acceptable, since February he wasnt seen anymore in ther artwork channel. In June he joined again, thats just the time he planned his "revolution", most of his visits was really short put in a url to his blog get no feedback get out. Its normal he live other side of the world. One day he get mrfoxdog, and he gave him some feedback. After the feedback Andy tried to make happen that mrfoxdog makes the graphics for his "revolutional" idea. He not said can u help me, I am not got with doing graphics or can u help me starting that no he pointed on him and say make the graphic. Of course mrfoxdog reacted like all we would it do, never heard his question. Then he joined again and pasted again new URLs to his blog, of course no one reacted, this day he did a new thing I replayed his pastes, and I said to him that brings nothing to past it again on this way. And he said there could be someone new to the channel. I am definitly no lovley boy who does a lot of hugs, but he looked for me like a Rumpelstilzchen furious stepping and dancing he declared he have already become more feedback as from us. Andy I am very sure, that that feedback not was given in boosters channel, no problem I have a log if it can always look ;) U know why I have log I am already in there! And I am very sure that when u have talked to booster Will, Henne, Pavol, Vuntz or Klaas they would have talk with javier or me to integrate u in the art-team. So looking in ur comments self u declared u cant work with art-team because we have no time, thats funny really. And u forget Jos did comment himself to ur blog today. Read it very well and understand what it means, to make only blogposts dont make things happen. U need graphics for doing it, where is the problem learn to do it. And of course all of us will help u to learn and make some pieces in ur work. But what we definitly not do, to wait that something comes out of ur mind so that we can drawing for u! At last but not least, I wrote u yesterday a mail to try not to create a second art-team and u answered to it and last sentence was "If you have the time and the skills (which I am sure you have, since I have seen some of your work) please join me." I am definitly not join u, u can join us!!! So when u read well u see the offer u cant take it or leave it. Thats up2u br gnokii
Tirsdag den 17. august 2010 20:32:15 skrev Andy:
What do you think? Who wants to join me? If you are serious about this, please send me an email and we will figure out how we will work together and make these things happen.
This plan is not perfect and if you have great input to share on it, please do. Let's be a team. We can do it.
Sorry for being the party pooper, but a few things strike me.
A lot of what you suggest, seems to go beyond just artwork, and requiring quite a bit of development.
You seem to overestimate the man-power available in the openSUSE project.
There's an on-going discussion about the future strategy for openSUSE. The outcome of these discussions should be awaited before making any big decisions for the future.
If you have ideas to improve KDE add them here: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:KDE_ideas
But if you suggest big, work-intensive things, don't get your hopes up, unless you are able and willing to do the work yourself.
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