Moin Simon,
On 02/01/2015 08:08 PM, Rolf Riis Bjørnsen wrote:
On lø., 2015-01-31 at 22:51 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
My SUSE colleagues worked on a new landing page during the last hackweek but I am not sure where it lives in github. http://opensuse.github.io/www.o.o/ Hi i have a bit of feedback on that site Cool, thanks for taking the time to evaluate this. But please understand
On 01.02.2015 14:26, Simon wrote: that this is very much work in (non-)progress. It represents in no way the 'result' of our work during hackweek, but it's merely a very rough first draft implementation. That said, let's discuss your feedback.
I think it is a good start as a marketing page for people who have never used openSUSE but i think we need to look at the aim and target audience of the site. We need to remember that the website has 2 distinct target audiences, one people who have never used openSUSE or don't know what it is and two exisiting users looking for doco / forums etc remembering that this is also the default home page in firefox on new installs. AFAICC this makes 3 audiences ;-) No seriously, in our discussions during hackweek we also talked about target audiences. BTW we have recorded this discussion on our trello board [1]
Of course also this use case came up.
I also don't really like the green logo and its background color (maybe its just me I never really liked that green) but It doesn't seem to fit the branding guidelines that well (Contrast it against the branding guidelines page or any of the screenshots on the screenshots page). Like I said, the current state is merely a very rough first draft. There wasn't any work done on branding, colors, interaction, UX or numerous other things. That's also the reason why this wasn't announced or anything.... Thats fine, couldn't quite pick up the status from what various people have said, it certainly is a good starting point. Which brings me to the next issue I have, the lack of a screenshots page its about the first thing I look for when I go to try new software. Screenshots are one of the features of the landing page we have identified.
The site also seems very commercial / corporate in its look and feel for a community distro, yes it has a big section on community but that doesn't really show the community. That one you have to explain to me. Why does the community section not "really" show the community? Yeah, i struggled to put this into words well, maybe its the engineer in me seeing it as a professionally made page full of flashy marketing material targeting managers and execs rather then end users or atleast not traditional Linux users and maybe thats not a bad thing seen as most
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Having said all this i thought i'd go have a look at the community to see what they do and maybe steal some ideas. The fedora website seems like a better example of what is being aimed forhttps://getfedora.org The first screen you see is very marketing oriented but by the time you scroll down the height of the screen you hit all the info users would be after. Whom do you mean with "users"? I guess you mean people that already participate in our community? Those are very secondary for this page. We rather want to do one thing (present the distro and the community to people who don't know it yet) and one thing well instead of having another mash up like we have right now. Yeah i don't think there needs to be much here, would just be nice if
On 02/06/2015 11:44 PM, Henne Vogelsang wrote: traditional Linux users probably know what openSUSE is. I guess the comment was also partly that it says what the community does rather then showing examples, but i'm not exactly sure how to fix it but my comment was more targeted at the fact it looks and feels like a website for a corporate product like SUSE rather then a community distro but again that might have been the target and not necessarlly a bad thing more a observation. there was a link to "Documentation" i.e. wiki and the forums somewhere near the top of the page, i'm guessing theres a fair number of people that go to this page looking for those two things.
I think there are a couple of things that could be done, One either add some navigation links at the top or middle to make it easy for users to find what they want, or two have a "marketing page" maybe accessible from something like whatisopensuse.org and then a "user focused" page with a similar design at opensuse.org with a easy way to swap between the two. Then there's any other ideas that you fine people can come up with. Actually our current idea is to have 2 different pages. One that can serve as default page in firefox and as landing page for existing users and the general landing page onwww.opensuse.org. That does sound like a good idea, especially if there's a simple way to swap between the 2, could even be 1 site with 2 pages. coming up with a excellent website is obviously hard work by virtue of the fact that there are only 1 or 2 distro's that have one. That's why we think it would be very good to have one.
hopefully, in the next hack week the work can be picked up on again. For sure. Thanks again for your feedback!
Henne
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