On Dec 6, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote:
Hi andi.
<pascal.bleser@opensuse.org> wrote:
On 2012-12-03 18:28:05 (-0700), Andy (anditosan) <anditosan1000@gmail.com> wrote:
Wallpaper Contest Guidelines
Hi Andy. Sorry to be late to pick this thread up, but it's needed, I think.
This is an official announcement of the wallpaper contest for openSUSE 12.3.
I'd like to stop you right here. If you call a one-man-action that has not been discussed with the other contributors of the artwork team an "official announcement", there is clearly an issue.
No problem. Please take the contest in your team's hands and run it. It really feels like a one man's show because you have not been part of the conversations taken at the artwork team's chat. I can't help with that. But if you don't like it, I can understand. I called it official mostly because it is the artwork team that runs the contest. If it was not official, then what is?
If it has not been discussed in an official meeting or on the mailinglist it did not happen at all.
Please point out the logs to the meeting where this has been discussed.
First off, if there is blame to go around you can give me a big helping of it. From my experience leading an artwork community, I suggested several ways of improvement which cost nothing more than a little bit of work selecting what we want. There is a difference between a contest for *the* wallpaper and a contest for wallpaperS for the next release. I in no way intended this to become a contest for *the* wallpaper, just a good way to get lots of nice new images and grow our community. I did discuss this on irc as well as on the mailing list. Check the archives. To be honest, I have watched the openSUSE artwork community for the last 6 months and thought that there was a problem. Design by committee does not work - it will never produce the best results. The mailing list seemed pretty silent, chat was only discussing daily issues so I tried to step in a "give it a kick" so to speak. I wanted to offer my experience as information and perhaps some small deeds (I really am busy at work having just started). I was asked to step in and help with a few things when there was nobody else to do them (working for SUSE has advantages and disadvantages :P) so it is not like I want to push my agenda or such, I really just want to help where needed. I think that this team does need some kind of leader. That leader is 100% likely NOT to be the one producing the design for each release, nor deciding on the direction him/herself, etc. That leader should simply herd the cats, check the boxes, encourage people, and help the team grow. Andy said he would like to give it a shot, nobody had any good reasons against it (again, on the mailing list) and then things, unfortunately, went a bit silent for a while. If anything, I think that this whole current discussion is because: a) there was not enough on-going discussion b) sometimes the tone of the email came across too heavy Both of those things are easy to solve and most likely only came about due to circumstances and misunderstanding. I don't think the current situation deserves too many emotions and seems easily solvable.
We are the only team that runs a wallpaper contest. If we don't call it official, then who does? If someone else does, I wouldn't have any problems with that. As long as we run a contest where our members can be involved.
You are the one who has run a wallpaper contest. I have clearly stated several times that I only support that kind of contest for supplementary wallpapers and only with clear guidelines (no logo modifications ...)
No, that was me…yes, I only intended it to be extra wallpapers unless by happenstance one of them would actually turn out to be the perfect fit. Mainly I just wanted to get wider involvement from outside the current community and get some nice free pics for little or no effort :-) Kenneth Wimer -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-artwork+owner@opensuse.org