Hi, Can this hardware be used to build armv7 on it like x86_64 and i586? 28.04.2015 09:53, Dirk Müller пишет:

Hi,

for a couple of weeks we've been experimenting with native builds for aarch64, and are now happy to announce that we consider the current state stable enough to announce it as being available.

== What changes ==

If you have packages enabled for building against openSUSE:Factory:ARM, nothing really changes for you. Just that the package will be build on native hardware now instead of using the user mode emulation on x86_64 that we've used before. Specifically, the macro %qemu_user_space_build is no longer set to 1. That said, for now it would still be a good idea to keep the %qemu_user_space_builds sections in your spec file as they are, as we still use user mode building for armv6 and for older targets (e.g. openSUSE 13.2).

== What if I want to build locally? ==

Due to the use of user-mode qemu emulation, it was previously possible to build locally for aarch64 on a x86_64 host by running "osc build <project> <package> standard aarch64". This does not work anymore, since the "standard" repository is now requiring native aarch64 hardware. You can still build with user mode emulation by using this command:

"osc build <package> qemu aarch64".

Greetings, Dirk

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Dirk Müller schrieb:

for a couple of weeks we've been experimenting with native builds for aarch64, and are now happy to announce that we consider the current state stable enough to announce it as being available.

Thanks to that aarch64 now builds in reasonable time and the automatic snapshoting mechanism that turns Factory into Tumbleweed has a chance to actually work. However, to determine whether a snapshot can be created the tools have to look at the overall state of the project and check if everything has settled. Due to armv6 and 7 beeing slow that almost never happens for the "local" arch used for image building. So I'm wondering whether it would make sense to split aarch64 from armv6/7 and use a separate project? Alternatively we could use a frozen project link instead of using always the latest Factory packagse. That would slow down aarch64 considerably though. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Jennifer Guild, Dilip Upmanyu, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5; 90409 Nürnberg; Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

Am 28.04.2015 um 10:30 schrieb Ludwig Nussel :

Dirk Müller schrieb:

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for a couple of weeks we've been experimenting with native builds for aarch64, and are now happy to announce that we consider the current state stable enough to announce it as being available.

Thanks to that aarch64 now builds in reasonable time and the automatic snapshoting mechanism that turns Factory into Tumbleweed has a chance to actually work. However, to determine whether a snapshot can be created the tools have to look at the overall state of the project and check if everything has settled. Due to armv6 and 7 beeing slow that almost never happens for the "local" arch used for image building. So I'm wondering whether it would make sense to split aarch64 from armv6/7 and use a separate project? Alternatively we could use a frozen project link instead of using always the latest Factory packagse. That would slow down aarch64 considerably though.

Let's try to see whether we can get more hardware first. If we can at least get armv7 to good speeds as well we could move armv6 out into a separate project as the oddball instead. Alex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org

Hi Matwey,

Can this hardware be used to build armv7 on it like x86_64 and i586?

No, we kept this separate for now. Greetings, Dirk -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-arm+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-arm+owner@opensuse.org