Re: [suse-amd64] FYI: Tyan S2885 with more than 4GB: New BIOS (fwd)
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And verily, didst Andrew Halliwell announce to the hordes:
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And verily, didst Marcus Barkowsky announce to the hordes:
Hi!
That's a very good bios. I have not discovered any new problems yet.
The graphics system using an NVIDIA 5600 card got a speed-up from 10fps to 50fps (720x576 pixel) when using plain x11 and 20fps to >100fps when using sdl. AGP is now automatically detected and used (NVIDIA_GLX and NVIDIA_kernel). 6GB are detected and used.
(Gah! I'm so used to just hitting reply for a mailing list to reply TO it rather than have to piss around cut/pasting addresses into the To: line, or hitting reply and then realising, and having to forward the mail again to the list... why such a silly setup?) Anyway... Got an S2885 here. With 2 1 gig ECC Reg DIMMs, it's fine. With 4, 6 or 8, BANG, kernel panic (when under heavy load of a kernel loop running with -j30 and copying a 2 gig file repeatedly). We found two of the 8 however were duff, cos they paniced the machine even with 2 in. But now we've just got a fresh batch of RAM, and it's still doing it. Can anyone say if this BIOS would resolve the problem I'm having? (although, it's "more than 2 gig" in my case) Or perhaps would the new 2.6.0 be more forgiving of whatever's causing it? We're VERY wary of trying to flash the bios. We tried it last week with the 1.01 first release BIOS and ended up with a dead motherboard.
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Hello, we had no "crashing" problems with a S2885 Bios Rev.1.01 and 8GB (8xCorsair PC2700) bought from TYAN with the board. It sounds to me that your memory isn´t compatible with the TYAN board. Andrew Halliwell wrote:
And verily, didst Andrew Halliwell announce to the hordes:
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Hi!
That's a very good bios. I have not discovered any new problems yet.
The graphics system using an NVIDIA 5600 card got a speed-up from 10fps to 50fps (720x576 pixel) when using plain x11 and 20fps to >100fps when using sdl. AGP is now automatically detected and used (NVIDIA_GLX and NVIDIA_kernel). 6GB are detected and used.
(Gah! I'm so used to just hitting reply for a mailing list to reply TO it rather than have to piss around cut/pasting addresses into the To: line, or hitting reply and then realising, and having to forward the mail again to the list... why such a silly setup?)
Anyway...
Got an S2885 here. With 2 1 gig ECC Reg DIMMs, it's fine. With 4, 6 or 8, BANG, kernel panic (when under heavy load of a kernel loop running with -j30 and copying a 2 gig file repeatedly).
We found two of the 8 however were duff, cos they paniced the machine even with 2 in. But now we've just got a fresh batch of RAM, and it's still doing it.
Can anyone say if this BIOS would resolve the problem I'm having? (although, it's "more than 2 gig" in my case)
Or perhaps would the new 2.6.0 be more forgiving of whatever's causing it?
We're VERY wary of trying to flash the bios. We tried it last week with the 1.01 first release BIOS and ended up with a dead motherboard.
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And verily, didst Mike D. Frenz announce to the hordes:
Hello,
we had no "crashing" problems with a S2885 Bios Rev.1.01 and 8GB (8xCorsair PC2700) bought from TYAN with the board. It sounds to me that your memory isn't compatible with the TYAN board.
Trouble is, it's on the list, almost. It's the same samsung chips as some others that are in the list for 1gig (although the ones we had were from a company (ventura) on the list only listed for 512, but as it's the same chips, they should work.) If memory is of the correct type (ECC Registered), correct frequency (333Mhz) and even the same chipset, it seems to me to be incredibly sloppy motherboard design if it STILL won't work.
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If memory is of the correct type (ECC Registered), correct frequency (333Mhz) and even the same chipset, it seems to me to be incredibly sloppy motherboard design if it STILL won't work.
Welcome to the world. It's nice here, you'll like it. There's so much variety of mediocrity -- you'll never EVER be bored! More seriously, I've tried about a half dozen varieties of random people's PC2700 modules in my S2885 and they _all_ work fine. While it's always possible your memory mfr had problems with their boards (there are a good handful of layers there), I've found the "memory:motherboard problem" to be mostly a thing of the past. That said, since it's sortof related, I did notice that switching to the new BIOS (which seems to call itself 0.01a, not the 1.01a one might think is more natural) DID cause the Tigon3 driver to become unstable and hard hang the system (no oops, no nothing, just frozen board) when heavy disk (3ware 8506) and network were simultaneous. At least, I'm blaming the tigon3 driver 'cause when I switched to the bcm570x driver instead, all the problems went away and I have been rock solid with a 2GB "memory hole," compiling cross-toolchains and pushing gigs around the net all day yesterday. Anybody tried 2.6.0 yet? -mcq
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John McCorquodale
Anybody tried 2.6.0 yet?
I tried 2.6.0-test11 on the S2885 and it worked fine for those tests that I did - but right now I don't have access to the S2885, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SuSE Linux AG, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
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Andrew Halliwell
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John McCorquodale
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Mike D. Frenz