Re: [opensuse-ambassadors] openSUSE Mentoring Program
HI, I think mentoring is not that important in this situation. because interested contributors can join as an ambassador and get to know the procedure and then they can apply for the membership. BTW if there is a help needed to newly joined ambassadors they can raise it in the IRC or mailing list. Then they are able to get more solutions for the matter without being centric to one person as in mentoring. So i think this procedure is an extra burden and there are many things to be done rather than mentoring. First I think it would be useful but now I feel its not that important. One or two people can handle adding ambassadors to the list. Answer to the questing can be posted to the mailing list. And if there is any help please post it to the list and IRC. That ll work well. -- Regards, *Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera* The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 21:20 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
HI, I think mentoring is not that important in this situation. because interested contributors can join as an ambassador and get to know the procedure and then they can apply for the membership.
BTW if there is a help needed to newly joined ambassadors they can raise it in the IRC or mailing list. Then they are able to get more solutions for the matter without being centric to one person as in mentoring.
So i think this procedure is an extra burden and there are many things to be done rather than mentoring. First I think it would be useful but now I feel its not that important. One or two people can handle adding ambassadors to the list. Answer to the questing can be posted to the mailing list. And if there is any help please post it to the list and IRC. That ll work well.
I agree with Jan and Buddhikke too
Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera* The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
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I said I agree with a No Mentors Policy but suddenly it strikes me that we should use experience of some people who have been before our time and can act as central point of contact IMO, Chuck aka terrorpup is one of them S Kemter aka Gnokii is one of them I say this because they are involved from the beginning of the beginning of the project and they can help us a lot more. Plus it would be nice for people to know who they should speak to rather than randomly asking on IRC Regards Manu On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 21:20 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
HI, I think mentoring is not that important in this situation. because interested contributors can join as an ambassador and get to know the procedure and then they can apply for the membership.
BTW if there is a help needed to newly joined ambassadors they can raise it in the IRC or mailing list. Then they are able to get more solutions for the matter without being centric to one person as in mentoring.
So i think this procedure is an extra burden and there are many things to be done rather than mentoring. First I think it would be useful but now I feel its not that important. One or two people can handle adding ambassadors to the list. Answer to the questing can be posted to the mailing list. And if there is any help please post it to the list and IRC. That ll work well. -- Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera* The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
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Hello, Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2010, 18:27:08 schrieb Manu Gupta:
I said I agree with a No Mentors Policy but suddenly it strikes me that we should use experience of some people who have been before our time and can act as central point of contact
IMO, Chuck aka terrorpup is one of them S Kemter aka Gnokii is one of them
I say this because they are involved from the beginning of the beginning of the project and they can help us a lot more. Plus it would be nice for people to know who they should speak to rather than randomly asking on IRC
when I see it right, what the others mean its that what I had in mind, there as not a selected group of mentors to be. We should not use the expierence of some people, we should use the expierience of all of us. I think it should be normal to help with advise when u can it and sometimes put the new one, when he need help to the right person if u not know the answer self. We should feel responsible for the person next to us and not try to creates new jobs with titles. br gnokii
Regards Manu
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 21:20 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
HI, I think mentoring is not that important in this situation. because interested contributors can join as an ambassador and get to know the procedure and then they can apply for the membership.
BTW if there is a help needed to newly joined ambassadors they can raise it in the IRC or mailing list. Then they are able to get more solutions for the matter without being centric to one person as in mentoring.
So i think this procedure is an extra burden and there are many things to be done rather than mentoring. First I think it would be useful but now I feel its not that important. One or two people can handle adding ambassadors to the list. Answer to the questing can be posted to the mailing list. And if there is any help please post it to the list and IRC. That ll work well. -- Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera* The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
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On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM, S.Kemter <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Hello,
Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2010, 18:27:08 schrieb Manu Gupta:
I said I agree with a No Mentors Policy but suddenly it strikes me that we should use experience of some people who have been before our time and can act as central point of contact
IMO, Chuck aka terrorpup is one of them S Kemter aka Gnokii is one of them
I say this because they are involved from the beginning of the beginning of the project and they can help us a lot more. Plus it would be nice for people to know who they should speak to rather than randomly asking on IRC
when I see it right, what the others mean its that what I had in mind, there as not a selected group of mentors to be. We should not use the expierence of some people, we should use the expierience of all of us. I think it should be normal to help with advise when u can it and sometimes put the new one, when he need help to the right person if u not know the answer self.
We should feel responsible for the person next to us and not try to creates new jobs with titles.
br gnokii
Regards Manu
On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 21:20 +0530, Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
HI, I think mentoring is not that important in this situation. because interested contributors can join as an ambassador and get to know the procedure and then they can apply for the membership.
BTW if there is a help needed to newly joined ambassadors they can raise it in the IRC or mailing list. Then they are able to get more solutions for the matter without being centric to one person as in mentoring.
So i think this procedure is an extra burden and there are many things to be done rather than mentoring. First I think it would be useful but now I feel its not that important. One or two people can handle adding ambassadors to the list. Answer to the questing can be posted to the mailing list. And if there is any help please post it to the list and IRC. That ll work well. -- Regards,
*Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera* The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka
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I want to thank Kostas, for recommending for this, I think it would be a great program, but many know how I feel about being a mentor. I have very mixed feeling about what a mentor is. I think as part of being Ambassador, that it's all our duty to mentor not just new Ambassadors, but all. Being an Ambassador isn't just creating artwork, writing blogs, hosting launch parties, or handing out DVD to people. Being an Ambassador is all of that and more. We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador. We are the front line. We will do impacts how people see openSUSE and our community. Many instead of "Mentor" program, we should identify those have been here for a while, ask them to help out as leaders. I also think it would be great to have leaders from all parts of the world. North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Middle East, and Asia. Because they would know the areas than just one person. Gnokii is right that it should be all of us, as a team helping out. Not just a select group or one person. I would like to recommend that we become more of community, there are some issue that need to be address in order for all to work together. I joined openSUSE as an Ambassador back in May 2008, because I am not a programmer and I wanted to give back to the openSUSE and the open source community. The Ambassador program is a great way to do that. I taught English in Japan for three and half years, for many I know they will find this hard to believe, I know my writing sucks. I am Dyslexic, but I don't let that stop me. I know my weakness, but what I learned teaching, I take that into the work I do as Ambassador, because I want people to come away loving and trusting open source, openSUSE and Linux. Plus, I love to teach and share. I am be glad to help out any way that I can. If the group see me a mentor, then I am happy to be one, but I will only do for the community. Not for myself. Pup -- ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Dear PUP, I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you. "We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1 -- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera The Editor in Chief - FOSS User Magazine openSUSE Ambassador - Sri Lanka -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-) I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know. But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-) Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this. Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role. Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays... ? Jos
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded. br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 13 December 2010 14:53:25 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
br gnokii
Good point, the welcome team should indeed do that. And I'm again not suggesting anything big or special - just asking the welcome team to make sure every ambassador has contacts in the community, if not, to take care of that.
Well good point indeed, we shall continue like that. Kostas 2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Monday 13 December 2010 14:53:25 S.Kemter wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
br gnokii
Good point, the welcome team should indeed do that. And I'm again not suggesting anything big or special - just asking the welcome team to make sure every ambassador has contacts in the community, if not, to take care of that.
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On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
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Guys, I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up. Pup -- ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
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Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you? 2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
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Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
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On Thursday 16 December 2010 08:37:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you?
He offered, yes :D
2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote:
Dear PUP,
I really love this writing. You spoke to the point and really relevant. Who and what ambassadors are??? Nice to have a guy like you. 100% agree with you.
"We need to be like Sale Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
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Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
Ok when it is ready let me know how I can contribute on it ;-) Kostas 2010/12/16 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Thursday 16 December 2010 08:37:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you?
He offered, yes :D
2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera wrote: > Dear PUP, > > I really love this writing. > You spoke to the point and really relevant. > Who and what ambassadors are??? > Nice to have a guy like you. > 100% agree with you. > > "We need to be like Sale > Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users all > rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we to > wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne > Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
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Am Donnerstag 16 Dezember 2010, 11:01:42 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Thursday 16 December 2010 08:37:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you?
He offered, yes :D
Sorry Jos, there are enough pages with first steps, there are Howtos etc. What also brings another page, with names under the headline "Mentors"? When a new Ambassador or a possible one read them, he knows where to come, and when the "welcome team" does the job right they put them directly there where he can get directly help! br gnokii
2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
> Dear PUP, > > I really love this writing. > You spoke to the point and really relevant. > Who and what ambassadors are??? > Nice to have a guy like you. > 100% agree with you. > > "We need to be like Sale > Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users > all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we > to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne > Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
?
Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
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2010/12/16 S.Kemter <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>:
Am Donnerstag 16 Dezember 2010, 11:01:42 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Thursday 16 December 2010 08:37:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you?
He offered, yes :D
Sorry Jos, there are enough pages with first steps, there are Howtos etc. What also brings another page, with names under the headline "Mentors"?
More information is never bad. How did you end up in the conclusion that there are enough or not enough pages? And finally since nobody is asking you to make something what is your problem? I think you were in the the convention and heard Henne's speech, take another look at it (http://blog.hennevogel.de/kick-ass/),unfortunattely I only read it. And when you are talking about what I told refer to me not to Jos nor anyone else like I do.
When a new Ambassador or a possible one read them, he knows where to come, and when the "welcome team" does the job right they put them directly there where he can get directly help!
br gnokii
2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet <jospoortvliet@gmail.com>:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
<buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> wrote:
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
wrote:
> > Dear PUP, > > > > I really love this writing. > > You spoke to the point and really relevant. > > Who and what ambassadors are??? > > Nice to have a guy like you. > > 100% agree with you. > > > > "We need to be like Sale > > Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users > > all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we > > to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne > > Great definition +1 > > Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about > that ;-) > > I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that > most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other > help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they > already know. > > But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the > welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If > you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference > in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will > make sure you're not bored ;-) > > Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you > have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in > your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask > him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know > anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, > that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. > That was the initial idea behind this. > > Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or > anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - > the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows > him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. > And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with > someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE > every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most > already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to > check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role. > > Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, > but just a little mail can make a difference between a new > ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays... > > ? > > Jos
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
br gnokii -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-ambassadors+help@opensuse.org
Guys,
I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!
Pup
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Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera -
Chuck Payne -
Jos Poortvliet -
Kostas Koudaras -
Manu Gupta -
S.Kemter