Am Donnerstag 16 Dezember 2010, 11:01:42 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Thursday 16 December 2010 08:37:59 Kostas Koudaras wrote:
Ok, if you like a wiki page is fine with me, but I wonder who could write such a page? Chuck maybe you?
He offered, yes :D
Sorry Jos, there are enough pages with first steps, there are Howtos etc. What also brings another page, with names under the headline "Mentors"?
When a new Ambassador or a possible one read them, he knows where to come, and when the "welcome team" does the job right they put them directly there where he can get directly help!
2010/12/15 Jos Poortvliet email@example.com:
On Wednesday 15 December 2010 18:26:29 Chuck Payne wrote:
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 8:53 AM, S.Kemter
Am Montag 13 Dezember 2010, 12:39:37 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:
On Monday 13 December 2010 01:00:51 Buddhika Chandradeepa Kurera
> Dear PUP, > > I really love this writing. > You spoke to the point and really relevant. > Who and what ambassadors are??? > Nice to have a guy like you. > 100% agree with you. > > "We need to be like Sale > Engineers, Marketing, Developers, Writes, Artist and End Users > all rolled into one. I know many will disagree with this, but we > to wear all hats as an Ambassador." - by Chuck Pup Payne > Great definition +1
Ok, so there seems a consensus, let me try and do something about that ;-)
I agree we should all be helpful on the list. I also agree that most if not all of the current ambassadors don't need any other help than what they can ask for on this list or to ppl they already know.
But I also think that if you're new here, it'd be very nice if the welcoming team would make sure you are 'anchered' into our team. If you became an ambassador because Carlos jumped you at a conference in Brazil and made you help him, that is not a problem. Carlos will make sure you're not bored ;-)
Same with many others, MR C is an example here. But what if you have been doing a little local stuff but don't know any others in your area? The welcoming team could then look for someone and ask him/her to try and help you out. After all, if you don't know anyone here asking on the list *might* be a bit daunting. Also, that person could check up on you, keep you a bit more motivated. That was the initial idea behind this.
Doesn't have to be anything special - doesn't need a wiki page or anything formal as far as I'm concerned but I know that for me - the personal relationship with Fabrice Mouse (I think nobody knows him here hehe) was a huge factor in me getting involved in KDE. And I think for most of you, the personal relationship with someone helped you in openSUSE. So I only propose to make SURE every ambassador who is new HAS such a personal relationship. Most already do, but it's not a big thing for the welcoming team to check that, and if not, find someone to fullfill that role.
Again, formalities are not really needed as far as I'm concerned, but just a little mail can make a difference between a new ambassador that leaves after a few months or stays...
Jos the point is easy, if the "welcome team" does there job right, the new one would know where he can get help. And the first one who answer him to this place or put him to the person ther would be automaticly a connection builded.
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I like to propose a page for the wiki team. "How to mentor -- or a guideline to be successful", those that like to help and be a mentor. Please I like to see ambassadors that been here for a while and are very active. Sign up on the page when it is done. Then the welcome team can then reach out to those people ask them to help new ambassador with issues and items that might come up.
Ok, it's a bit more formal than what I had in mind, but if the welcoming team thinks they could use this to find ppl, why not? Let's just do it instead of say no no - you want to do the work, great!