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Re: [opensuse] Leap 15 and rhythmbox
On 2018-06-15 02:13, don fisher wrote:
On 06/14/2018 12:43 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

And how are you starting fvwm?

Because if you do so directly without a login manager, using startx,
for instance, things can fail.

Please explain more. I have always launched fvwm2 -r from within my
.xinitrc. I do this after choosing the fvwm option at the login window.
So I think I am using the fvwm login manager, with a subsequent
execution of fvwm in my .xinitrc.

Am I not understanding you?

But you are not using kdm or gdm or lightdm, a display manager aka login
manager (runlevel 5)? Well the thing is that some things do not work if
you don't use them.

In my functioning 42.3 system, the window manger is
$WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/startkde, and the x window manger is
$XWINDOWMANAGER=fvwm2. How do I see what is running at runlevel 5?

On my Leap 15 system, logging in as $WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/bin/startkde
with x window manger still listed as $XWINDOWMANAGER=fvwm2.

We told you and it (a) is on the release notes:

a) Use update-alternatives. The variable is ignored.

b) fvwm2 does not support update-alternatives.

I suppose there is a bugzilla on 'b', so you will have to stay on 42.3
or not use fvwm2 on 15.0 as display manager.

Are you running Leap 15. Could you try to run fvwm, and in one of its
windows spawn Rhythmbox and see what you get?

No, I only have a small 15.0 test system, the workhorse is on 42.3

Look, you did not notice this important email:

Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 16:58:16 +0930
From: Simon Lees <>
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Documentation on using an alternate display
manager like xdm or fvwm

fvwm2 has not been patched to use the new update alternatives to set the
default window manager which was mostly targeting desktops that you can
install from the openSUSE installer, if you have lightdm set as the
default then you should be able to select it on login.

And this other:

Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2018 09:45:41 +0200
From: Michael Vetter <>
Subject: Re: [opensuse] Documentation on using an alternate display
manager like xdm or fvwm

Actually there was a bug about this for Tumbleweed:

I will submit the same changes to Leap 15.0. Thanks for the reminder
and sorry for the inconvinience.


So, quick answer: no, you can not use it as display manager now in 15.0.
Use lightdm instead.

Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 42.3 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

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