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Re: [opensuse] Update FireFox 49.5 -> 52.2, file dialogs are horrible, how to get FF49 dialogs back?
On 18/06/17 17:16, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/18/2017 01:38 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:
On 06/16/2017 06:25 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
hope your day gets better.
It will once we get the children out the the UI design business.

And I apologize, I don't mean to give a flippant response, but the *point is*
I use Linux personally and for my office. It's bad enough when something for
me personally changes and doesn't work like it used to and I have to jack with
figuring out why, but it is another thing altogether to have to spend the time
to either retrain, fix or provide work-arounds for all those using the
application who are not tech-savy.

Yes, this should be addressed to the gnome list, and it appears I'm not alone
in the complaints about the gtk+ engine change and unexplained failure to
provide a backwards compatibility, kde was hard hit as well with all the work
on the Oxygen theme essentially becoming worthless:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340288#c1
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735211#c8
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356845

An auto-update should never break backwards compatibility.

We are smart enough in 2017 to provide clean backwards compatibility,
especially when there is no legitimate technical reason not to. In the days of
8M drives, there was an argument to be made. In the days of Terabyte storage,
it rings hollow.

I often wonder, with as capable as the Linux desktop is today, why it doesn't
garner more of the market share. This is one of the main arguments you hear
against the adoption by business. As a community, we do very little to prove
that argument wrong. Gnome2/3, KDE3/4/FW5, etc., etc..

Yes innovation is good and yes change will happen, but it can be done so that
what worked yesterday, continues to work today as well.

I am just a tad confused here, David. I read the bug reports you mention
above and they go way back to 2014 and yet I am right at this moment
using the Oxygen theme on my Leap 42.2 KDE desktop. So is Leap still
using gtk2?


BC


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