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Re: [opensuse] Upgrade to 42.1 from 13.1?
Thanks for all the replies, especially Felix! Good explanations but I'm still
a bit confused (70+ years old with some dementia). I've been using SuSE since
version 5.1 but the memory isn't what it used to be.

On Mon, 8 Feb 2016 13:48:31 -0500
Felix Miata <mrmazda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

jdd composed on 2016-02-08 18:55 (UTC+0100):

Thomas Taylor composed:

I have run into a problem upgrading a multi-boot system. I currently have
OS 13.1, Fedora 18, and windows 7 on my system. I'm using legacy grub as
boot manager. It is installed in a partition on an SSD along with the
windows 7 system.

but I guess an uefi firmware? I have no such problem with usual BIOS



The BIOS (ASUS M5A99X) is set to other OS (non-UEFI) for boot


When I attempt to install OS 42.1 (leap) onto this system I receive
messages that the /boot/efi needs to be formatted FAT.

If you install 42.1 on a separate partition, and put its bootloader on its /
partition, or install no bootloader at all, you can use 13.1's bootloader to
start 42.1. Afterwards you can rearrange booting if you please from one of
the running installations.



In the partitioning expert mode (from create) would a partition need to be
specified (i.e. //boot) or just allow install to put it in the / folder?


Sounds to me like maybe you're being mislead by the start of the partitioning
process, where create setup lies between edit proposal and "expert
partitioner". Edit proposal is not appropriate for any multiboot user. Expert
on this screen is a lie. The true expert mode can only be reached by choosing
create partition setup, the only practical choice for multibooters. In true
expert mode you should be able to tell it what you want, not have it tell you
what you can have.

ignore this, and as soon as possible switch to grub2 (may be in install
summary)

I have many 42.1 installations, all in multiboot, none using Grub2 for
openSUSE or as primary bootloader (most have no trace of Grub2 anywhere), and
two alongside Win7. If he likes Grub and it's working fine for 13.1 alongside
Win7, he doesn't need Grub2 for 42.1 to work as well as 13.1.

After adding another partition
(FAT) with mount point of /boot/efi I then get a message that it requires
GPT partition table but windows 7 won't boot with that.

Maybe if you post output from gdisk or fdisk we could see a reason it does
that. GPT is only "required" if the disk size is >2GB. Win7 will boot from
GPT, but not if you make a change to GPT from BIOS outside of Windows. If
you're booting BIOS now, you need to keep it.



/boot (OS_13.1)) is on /dev/sda2 and / (OS_13.1) is on /dev/sda3
OS_42.1 will be installed on /dev/sdb11 (partition on 1.5 TB drive

Output from fdisk -l:
Disk /dev/sda: 128.0 GB, 128035676160 bytes, 250069680 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x000a6820

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 2048 178259287 89128620 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda2 * 178259968 182450175 2095104 83
Linux /dev/sda3 182450176 250068991 33809408 83
Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes, 2930277168
sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512
bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096
bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096
bytes Disk label type:
dos Disk identifier:
0x000be7d9
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id
System /dev/sdb1 * 2048 102402047 51200000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 102402048 132405247 15001600 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sdb3 132405248 157579101 12586927 83 Linux
/dev/sdb4 173365248 2930276351 1378455552 5 Extended
/dev/sdb5 173367296 179664775 3148740 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdb6 189753344 384313343 97280000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb7 425277440 496957439 35840000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb8 496959488 701759487 102400000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb9 701761536 763201535 30720000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb10 763203584 804163583 20480000 83 Linux
/dev/sdb11 961458047 1034843040 36692497 83 Linux
Partition 11 does not start on physical sector boundary.
/dev/sdb12 1034845089 2930256800 947705856 83 Linux
Partition 12 does not start on physical sector boundary.
/dev/sdb13 804165632 961441791 78638080 83 Linux
/dev/sdb14 384315392 403455999 9570304 83 Linux
/dev/sdb15 403458048 425273343 10907648 83 Linux

Partition table entries are not in disk order

Disk /dev/sdc: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes, 2930277168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x0003a97d

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 2048 2930276351 1465137152 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sdd: 1500.3 GB, 1500301910016 bytes, 2930277168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x49b84276

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdd1 63 2457602047 1228800992+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdd2 2457602048 2930276351 236337152 83 Linux

Disk /dev/sde: 4000.8 GB, 4000752599040 bytes, 976746240 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 4096 = 4096 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk label type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xdb4bf07b

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sde1 256 976746239 3906983936 83 Linux

Is there a way to install 42.1 in a FAT type table? I read the "Unofficial
Guide to openSUSE Leap 42.1" but didn't see anything pertinent there. Where
could I look for more information?

42.1 has no need for anything FAT on a BIOS installation.

It might be best, if you can install 42.1 to a separate partition, to
partition as you please with 13.1, and then in 42.1 merely specify mount
points using the expert mode hiding in create .

Note that 42.1 includes Grub, but it cannot be completely "installed" at
installation time. Bootloader options omit it, but on a multiboot system it's
simple to complete its installation, after which it will function as it has
for the entire existence of openSUSE. Be sure if making this choice to change
/etc/sysconfig/bootloader LOADER_TYPE from none to grub if you want menu.lst
kept up to date automatically.

Thanks, Tom Taylor KG7CFC

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