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Re: [opensuse] move the mailing list
Does anyone know or have a link to the justification provided for
banning Carlos from this list when the transgression was committed on
another list?

On 12/25/2015 08:35 PM, Xen wrote:

....calm down?

I mean I don't know you and I haven't read all of the other responses, but.


"Control yourself".

Watch some anime ;-).

I agree Carlos is a good ambassador.

Sometimes things get out of hand.

Ideally people find a way of dealing with trouble by being respectful.

It is a matter of wisdom and principles understood.

But you can hardly blame people for being imperfect.

Everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. I'm sorry if this sounds
opposite to what I said before.

I usually don't go back to a heated debate for a while to let things
calm down (before I respond again).

Sometimes better if others take the heat or provide the balance.

But if something there much also be room for imperfection.

Admitting imperfection is humility. Humility means we are all human. It
also means that, as a leader, you make mistakes.

What we often see is a kind of air of impeccability when leaders only
crack down on people who step out of bounds while not taking a look at

I guess that is what upsets you / us. So I think there is room for all
being more human in our imperfection. There is no blame and really also
no shame in being imperfect.

I should tell myself that one day. Or maybe I am ;-).

Let's admit our failings and let's not hold other people to a higher
standard than we do ourselves.

Signing out...

Ruben Safir schreef op 25-12-2015 23:42:
On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 02:36:38PM -0800, FC wrote:
On 12/25/2015 02:31 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
Maybe it is time to move this mailing list away from these idiots
and create a
new official opensuse list.

Ruben Safir - 15:46 25.12.15 wrote:

Intolorant facist bastands ... YES - I said your an intolorant
facist bastard...and I don't think facist bastards should find
suse mailings lists a safe place to ply their censorship..

It looks to me like now, you, in so many (unwise words) are asking
for the board to ban you next. Calling a board member a facist
bastard is just completely bad taste.

I know, Hitler said that to my Father before he removed him from his
in the German Civil Service on Kristal Notch.

Make no mistake about it, banning Carlos, was the move of a FACIST,
and there is no way of talking yourself out of it.

My behavior is not the one on trial here, and the "board", if it is
smart, walks carefully, not to do more facist censoring
if it expects to repair their fucked up reputation with our community.

Just to put it on record, as well, Carlos ER was a better ambassador
for the SuSE project than any of the facists that that censored him.


So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 - Leadership Development in Free Software - Unpublished Archive - coins!

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013


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