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Re: [opensuse] Grub2 and installing multiple distros on same computer - *ADDENDUM*
On 2013-03-09 20:35 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

On 09/03/13 13:48, Felix Miata wrote:

On 2013-03-09 13:31 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:

It really isn't necessary to install a full system to have a main
bootloader. On a new HD I first partition, then boot Knoppix, from
which I create a filesystem on at least my realboot partition plus the
swapper, and untar what needs to go in /boot/grub plus a 100% penguin
/boot/message. Then I open the Grub Legacy shell to run setup, after
which I fetch the first installation kernel/initrd set(s) I will use
to install an OS.

Correct. But why go thru all this hoopla when you can do this from an
already installed system and save all this time in installing from
Knoppix etc?

When I wrote "new HD", the implication was also _only HD_, the typical
laptop case whether the HD is new or not. Also on many recent desktop
systems, only enough space is provided for a single internal HD, so
with laptops outselling desktops for more than half a decade, only HD
is actually the most common target configuration.

I am not too sure what you are trying to say about the difference
between "new HD" and "only HD" because having just the one HD has
nothing to do with the argument because, for example, on my system all
my OSs - with the exception of XP which I had to put on the second HDD -
are all on the one HDD.

Your (already booting/working) system is not what I was writing about. The system I was writing about had/has nothing installed anywhere.

I was responding to "all this hoopla", which was/is about getting _anything_ installed initially; and about getting and keeping a separate master/real boot partition (of 400MiB or less) that no installed OS owns or thinks it owns and can discombobulate at upgrade times. And, it was/is about installing openSUSE or any other Linux without downloading or booting any installation isos or any further booting from anywhere except HD, using Knoppix to ready Grub (Legacy) to initiate (network) installation of the first operating system on a theretofore empty HD.

The only possible factor to come into the argument is the size of the
HDD - but as, say, openSUSE doesn't require more than 20GB or so then
the argument is moot because even internal HDD now come in the 132GB and
above sizes -- even with Windows 7 or 8 installed.

On my test systems, / partitions are usually 4.8GiB regardless of total HD size, so even a little 20GB HD has room for at least 3 distros plus DOS and/or minimal WinXP plus some swap and a minimal /home - and realboot on 1st or 3rd primary partition.
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata ***
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