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Re: [opensuse] Systemd and fstab
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 07:10:18PM +0100, Ruediger Meier wrote:
On Thursday 15 December 2011, Lars Müller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:04:01AM -0500, James Knott wrote:
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
It will, the issues that came up now are getting fixed. Seems not
enough people tested it before the release in earnest ;-(

When you make a significant change, such as this, you'd better do a
*LOT* of testing before inflicting it on innocent users.

Yes, you as the community have to test more and better. It's a shame
how bad you performed as part of the openSUSE 12.1 release process.

On the other hand this shows that not enough users were "pulling on the
systemd end" (to use coolo's phrase). But we've got it nevertheless.

See my other mail, the majority doesn't care till a release is
available. Yes, there had not been enough people at the other end. And
at the end I'm happy about this. Even if it had also caused some pain
to myself.

Fortunately or unfortunately. Here at openSUSE it is as it is with most
Open Source Software projects. Those doing the work are deciding how
things are going forward.

IMO there is nothing wrong with not testing a thing (systemd) which I'm
not interested in. But if I will be "forced" to use that thing then I
expect that the ones who are forcing me have seen enough tests.

I'm sure Frederic and Coolo tested this quite well on their own
development systems. I've tested it too on my workstation. At the end
based on this I guess we had 2 working to one maybe failing systems out
of three. Not an optimal result but enough to release it. ;)


Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ]
Samba Team
SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany
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