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Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [opensuse] How do i win some space back?
  • From: Oddball <monkey9@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 21:21:17 +0100
  • Message-id: <4CFFE8BD.8000006@xxxxxx>
Op 08-12-10 20:40, Anton Aylward schreef:
Oddball said the following on 12/08/2010 02:20 PM:

I allways leave the messages on the server, because when i tested
alphas, sometimes the os was unuseble, and i needed my mail to be read,
therefore using other os or pc's.
However i do not choose to download only the headers, because i then
have to download every message i want to read seperately.
Lazyness and ignorance , i guess, not knowing until recently, that
deleting mail on the server, is not the same as deleting messages from
my client. I thought that mails i deleted with shift+del, were gone.
This however appears to be a mistake.
With the server settings in TB, i also can choose to delete messages
without having read them.

So, what is the real advantage of imap over pop3 again?

I think you haven't read what we've been saying.

With POP3 you ALWAYS download ALL messages, headers and bodies.

That is not correct, with pop3, in TB, you can choose to download only
headers, or the complete body.
With IMAP you ONLY download the messages you choose to read.

I used mailwasher for that, through wine, to keep my server clean,
preselect spam and to bounce unwanted messages..
But i stopped doing it, i guess 'cos of a windows app inside of linux,
but i am not sure, maybe also lazyness...

Depending on the MUA, an IMAP reader may not even retain the messages it
has downloaded. The download is only temporary. Think of it as
downloading to the screen rather than the disk. Yes, I know, its not
actually, 'cos of caching. But the point is that its not _stored_ on
the client.

This looks attractive to me...

The end result is that IMAP doesn't use the space on the client that
POP3 does. Which is the problem you were faced with.


Of course you can always buqqer around with things, telling an IMAP MUA
to retain the bodies or always deleting _all_ of the local copies in
POP2 mode after reading. But its apparent you weren't.

No, i was not, cos i thought that when i deleted them, they would be gone..

For me, the advantage of IMAP is that I can read the same messages from
any of my stations because its not downloaded onto then as is the case
with POP3

Look what you are actualy saying: You can read your mail on all your
machines, despite the fact that it is still on the server..
with pop3, all the machines i/one want(s) to read my/ones mail on, get
cluttered with them:
All your machines stay clean, while mine get cluttered, all of them,
with the same mails..

This is indeed a great advantage.

Some of us get more sophisticated. We run IMAP servers that do the
indexing and searching on the server, so even when doing a search of the
bodies there is no need to download them to the workstation.

An imap server is a seperate machine? Like an old pc?
I'm sure others can contribute additional advantages of IMAP.


Enjoy your time around,

Oddball (M9.) (Now or never...)

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