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Re: [opensuse] multiple kernel versions - how to?
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 11:20 +0100, Lars Müller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 10:04:32PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/12/02 18:56 (GMT+0100) Lars Müller composed:

Doesn't anyone else like to get this solved in a smart way?

Does anyone not? Didn't Fedora get this solved something like 5
years ago? 6? More than 6?

Fedora and RedHat stack Kernels. There is no rotation or automatic
uninstall of a not used Kernel.

AAMOF, Ubuntu has had the particular feature of having the various
kernels available in grub options for a good bit now.

If there is, please point me to the configuration file - please not the
one of grub or lilo.

Does it really matter how big menu.lst gets as long as the latest is
at the top of the list?

It matters usebilty wise. Imagine you have several systems getting
booted and after two years you have to skip 10 to get down to your
prefered system.

But in GRUB you can actually spec out the default (Grub 1 and 2).

Even Microsoft does this in a more elegant way by default. You don't
see anything till something fails. Only if the last run crashed you see
a special screen. And that's what I explained in the post I quoted.

Those using a separate /boot are probably sophisticated enough not
to be bothered by ancient kernels not being removed automatically,

No. That _might_ work for experienced users. And this is not only a
risk to a separate /boot. It's also a risk to the overall system. Not
every system has an infinite amount of disk space. And some users even
have to pay for disk space.

I've tended to over size my / partition by a good 10G or so, given
that a kernel and it's attending files are under 20M, having multiple
kernels over the lifespan of an install really isn't an issue for me.

And the use case I have in mind never ever assumed a dedicated /boot.

I like to read arguments and not we don't need this as it works well for
people using computers since 1987.

I think the big thing here, is multi-boot systems, where grub would
hand over booting to another instance of grub for that particular
install. Kinda like this: My oS11.1 handles the boot sequence, but my
Ubuntu install get's used on a day to day basis, if 11.1's grub could
hand off to Ubuntu's grub, and give me the various boot this install
only options, that would work quite nicely, atm there are 6 kernels for
my Ubuntu install.

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