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[opensuse] Re: disks... (is it broken or is it something else?)
  • From: Neil <hok.krat@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:59:14 +0200
  • Message-id: <fb8374350809012259vaa9b25epc635b47d14785854@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On 9/1/08, michael <cs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 14 Aug I reported (update at end!)

A couple of weeks ago, 'smart' sent me:

The following warning/error was logged by the smartd daemon:
Device: /dev/hdb, not capable of SMART self-check

and in /var/log/messages for that time I see (exc iptables info):

Jul 30 05:13:10 ratty kernel: hda: lost interrupt
Jul 30 05:14:10 ratty kernel: ide-cd: cmd 0x3 timed out
Jul 30 05:14:10 ratty kernel: hda: lost interrupt
Jul 30 05:15:10 ratty kernel: ide-cd: cmd 0x3 timed out
Jul 30 05:15:10 ratty kernel: hda: lost interrupt
Jul 30 05:15:10 ratty kernel: hdb: status error: status=0x00 { }
Jul 30 05:15:10 ratty kernel: ide: failed opcode was: 0xb0
Jul 30 05:15:17 ratty kernel: hda: lost interrupt

I also note that on 23 & on 25 Jul (ie a week earlier) the machine had
frozen over night so I had to do a hard reboot (pull the kettle lead

I didn't reboot on 30 Jul but did earlier tonight and the machine failed
to boot - /dev/hdb not being 'found' by the BIOS (I think). I rebooted
went into BIOS & all disks were present so continued to reboot but just
now got another SMART warning (same as above "Device: /dev/hdb, not
capable of SMART self-check") and if I try and cd/ls a partition on the
device it just hangs.

michael@ratty:~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/hdb
smartctl version 5.36 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce
Home page is

Device Model: [No Information Found]
Serial Number: [No Information Found]
Firmware Version: [No Information Found]
Device is: Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is: 1
ATA Standard is: Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is: Thu Aug 14 19:49:28 2008 BST
SMART is only available in ATA Version 3 Revision 3 or greater.
We will try to proceed in spite of this.
SMART support is: Ambiguous - ATA IDENTIFY DEVICE words 82-83 don't show
if SMART supported.
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.

and I'm not sure what that means.

I'll welcome advice on whether it's the HDD about to die or whether the
interrupt/timed out messages indicate something else?

This is on box with
michael@ratty:~$ uname -a
Linux 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Tue Jun 17 21:31:27 UTC 2008
i686 GNU/Linux

UPDATE: I've, as suggested, put this disk into another machine and so
far (about 5 hrs) 'smart' hasn't reported any errors and I have
successfully done 'ls -R' and 'find . -type f' on the (only) partition a
few times...

So my question is whether the hard drive is actually okay? And if so why
was I getting numerous errors before??

All help at solving this most welcome!


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It could be that the controller on that mobo is bad. However, I'd buy
a new disk and copy the data (dd overnight should do it in most
cases). You cannot have to many disks filled with backups :D.

To check wether the mobo is bad you could try and stick another
(non-critical data) disk (diff brand preferably) on the same
connector. If it sends the same messages, you may have a bad
controller and still be happy with your disk.

Just be sure to back the data up as fast as you can. A dying disk may
stop giving SMART messages for some time before it dies for good.
SMART is not a good way of determinig wether a disk will die soon,
just the only way.

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