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Re: [opensuse] Linux in Public Schools
  • From: Hans Krueger <hanskrueger@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:46:08 -0500
  • Message-id: <45B4EA50.3000201@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Greg Freemyer wrote:
> On 1/20/07, StephenW <winstephen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> As the original poster perhaps I should have added a bit of
>> explaination for
>> posting. So, I shall.
>>
>> I also work as a technical support person in an educational setting
>> that is
>> moving away from a "mixed platform" to a Windows only scenario. The
>> mixed
>> platform came about way back when the local school had choice. The
>> district in
>> now in charge of all hardware decisions. I began two years ago
>> working with
>> Mac (OS 8.0 thru 10.3.8) and Windows (95 thru WindowsXP SP2). Thanks
>> be that
>> in the last year the decision was made that I am no longer expected
>> to keep
>> everything working. What is left are the Macs running 9.2 or better
>> and only
>> the machines running XP - eventually all Macs are scheduled for
>> replacement.
>>
>> I doubt I need to go into the problems I face working with machines
>> that come
>> with the user having administrator privileges... and even worse not
>> being able
>> to remove them because some of the programs need those privileges to
>> function.
>> This is especially onerous when teachers go away and leave computers
>> running in
>> that mode and students have access - you can guess some of the
>> consequences.
>>
>> I keep looking for OSS programs that will do the same thing as the MS
>> based
>> programs and have installed a couple of them (e.g., Firefox and
>> OpenOffice). I
>> am afraid it is a losing battle since more and more companies are
>> only writting
>> educational software for Mac or MS. One example is seen in our district
>> deciding to install ActivBoards in every classroom in the district (a
>> multi-million dollar action). It is a great piece of technology but
>> more
>> firmly locks the sytem to MS (or Mac). Not to mention the use of
>> SmartWeb and
>> Excent (online tools for teachers' records and reporting) written
>> specifically
>> for Windows - and jury rigged to function somewhat on a Mac. Look as
>> I may
>> there is no way this kind of software can be countered.
>>
>> It appears that in spite of my desire to see OSS make more inroads it
>> is not
>> going to happen in the desktop application arena.
>>
>> Or, there any clout in a group like this to do anything - except
>> solve our own
>> problems in our own little worlds?
>>
>> StephenW
>>
>> PS I am still a novice in my pursuit of understanding and using linux -
>> including lists such as this. The one LUG in my area fell apart
>> sometime ago.
>> I need to look about to see if they have been revived.
>
> Stephen,
>
> The Atlanta Public School systems has allowed at least one school to
> totally drop MS and go with Linux thin clients instead. IIRC, most of
> the apps run on Linux Servers thus significantly reducing IT support
> issues.
>
> See http://article.gmane.org/gmane.org.user-groups.ale/41302
>
> for a good posting about it. FYI: ALE is my LUG.
>
> If you want to know more details I suggest you google "Daniel Howard
> Atlanta" and you will find a couple of news articles written about his
> experience.
>
> Also, many of his other postings to the ALE list are relevant:
> http://search.gmane.org/?query=atlanta&author=Daniel+Howard+&group=&sort=relevance&DEFAULTOP=and&%3C=Previous&TOPDOC=10&xP=atlanta&xFILTERS=Adaniel+howard+---A
>
>
> Greg
StephenW
you have a linux group in the area
www.melug-central.org


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