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Re: [opensuse] Re: [OT] What's in a Name?
  • From: Jos van Kan <vankan@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 21:24:45 +0100
  • Message-id: <4580618D.60708@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Stephen Berman wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:16:50 -0800 Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> On Wednesday 13 December 2006 10:01, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote:
>>> Philipp Thomas wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:13:31 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
>>>>> Schulz means "protector," or something of that ilk.
>>>> Let a German tell you that it doesn't ;-) I can only guess that it
>>>> is related to Schulze, which is an old term for mayor. So in the
>>>> end, you weren't *that* far away :)
>>> No need to guess, see
>> I wrote "policeman" first, but then after checking the association with
>> the SS, changed it to "protector." I'm guessing that a common root is
>> involved with all these various meanings.
> According to the etymologies I've seen, Schulze is a shortened form of
> Schultheiss, which literally means, roughly, the one who orders debts
> to be collected (Schuld = debt, related to English should).

The office of Schulthei├č or Schulze (schout in Dutch) is a lot like that of the
mediaeval sheriff in England.

> Schutz
> derives from a word meaning to contain or damn in (water), related to
> English shut.

That's one meaning, but another one (a lot more common) is that of 'protection'.

("Darf ich Ihnen Schirm und Schutz anbieten?", R.W. Fassbinder, Die Sehnsucht
der Veronika Voss)

Jos van Kan registered Linux user #152704
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