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Re: [SLE] Smart Update problem
  • From: "Clint Tinsley" <clintin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:24:34 -0700
  • Message-id: <20060720212434.D495A43EEC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> BandiPat wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 July 2006 22:05, Clint Tinsley wrote:
> > [...]
> >> Now the your mileage may vary. Smart is beta, not final product and
> >> there are some chinks in the armour already showing. First off,
> >> while Smart is like YOU on steroids (or YUM on Fedora), it is
> >> realatively fast but here is its downside. In order to decide
> >> which package update in which repo is best, it downloads tons of
> >> package updates which it "sorts" through and then installs the best
> >> "fit" of packages for your system; this extra downloading comes at a
> >> price of time. Second, Smart has not been consistent in updating
> >> when compared with YOU. Tonight, as an example, YOU had 5 packages
> >> for updating where Smart only knew about 3 of the updates. I used
> >> YOU to update my system. Third, I also have a Fedora Core 5 system
> >> which I tested Smart on; it did not pickup my Livna repo which YUM
> >> does so I am sticking with YUM there. Smart is definitely work in
> >> progress as Beta but you'll want to check it against YOU or YUM
> >> before taking anything to the bank. YOU is working pretty well for
> >> me.
> >>
> >> Clint
> > ========
> >
> > Clint,
> > If you are comfortable with YUM in Fedora, you might also want to
> > stick with that in SuSE. I have been using KYum recently with
> > the added advantage of YUM from the command line and find it to
> > be quite efficient! I've looked a Smart, but wanted a KDE
> > interface where KYum fits that requirement nicely. I also felt
> > the need to get away from a mono programmed YOU.
> > YUM seems to be quite a good program for updating. The only
> > thing I wasn't prepared for was that it downloads all the update
> > files first before installing, where YOU does them individually.
> > Otherwise, I'm becoming a YUM convert! :-)

Unfortunately, I am a not a "convert" to any particular update manager because none of them seem to be consistent and each equal in being able to break one's system. After I wrote this earlier note about SuSE knowing about the Samba updates and two others, the next day it had "forgotten" about Samba updates and only indicated that something called kippi-plugins (for kde) were available. I then ended up using Smart to do the Samba updates and SuSE to do the kippi ones but then SuSE "failed" to do the kippi (probably a repo issue), but when I tried again the next morning, it worked but asked for my DVD (which DVD did I use), after trying a couple DVDs, SuSE was sort of happy with the second and "finished" the update but with an error (didn't pay a lot of attention to this) and now the SuSE update watcher is happy with no updates available. As to YUM, I think my last update broke my FC5 laptop as it seems to lock up now, solid, and I have to shut it down for a reboot. It doesn't know it locked up, that is how hard the lock up is. I have used Synaptics as well but found inconsistencies there as well.

My approach is to basically use one update tool as primary but compare it's findings with the others, then pick and choose.


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