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Re: [SLE] Re: GNOME vs KDE Redoux
  • From: Graham Anderson <graham.anderson@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 19:23:18 +0100
  • Message-id: <200605031923.18101.graham.anderson@xxxxxxxxx>
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 15:20, Chuck Davis wrote:
> I have a difficult time imagining a developer so stupid s/he had to
> ask Novell for a suggestion regarding which desktop development tools
> to use. Indeed, I can't even conceive of the possibility. Is there
> really someone at Novell so out of touch with reality that s/he is
> giving such statements in interviews? No wonder they've put the GNOME
> fanbois in charge there!

Yes but then theres the problem developers face when looking at all these
supposedly business ready desktops using gnome. Writing a desktop application
in C on a C based toolit for a GUI application is many a developers
nightmare. In my opinion it's crazy to expect, or even imagine, the army of
application developers out there to write C for desktop applications on

In fact after a quick bit of research, i could not fine a single University in
the UK that teaches desktop application development in C. *Every* University
here teaches desktop application developement in C++, Java or C# What does
that tell you about the problem ;)

It's hardly any wonder the majority of application developers I speak to
prefer Qt and writing for KDE. This is also why de Icaza wants GNOME to move
to C#/mono so that it has a more suitable language base for development. If
the MS haters can get past their blinkered hatred for a moment they would see
this is not such a bad idea, at least for GNOME anyway. The problems they
face with this are rather large though, an immature language infrastructure
not the least bit withstanding.

The simple fact is, if you want to have momentum on the desktop then it's all
about the application developers and the tools they have available, *nothing*
else matters. I hate to say this but even microsoft understood this :( That's
why for now at least I don't see momentum for the GNOME desktop and why KDE
will continure to forge ahead in the lead with application development.

While SLED may be a great product, I have no doubt it's usefullness is limited
by the lack of application developers able ( and willing! ) to write using
the confusing mess that is GTK/GDK/PANGO/Glib. I rather suspect Novell knows
this and it why they have clearly stated it is aimed at the 'knowledge'
office worker who just needs office apps / browser / email.

People considering deploying a linux desktop would do well to consider this...



P.S. Just use KDE

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